Political Correctness Gone Mad Again

Caracus2k said:
The 'joke' relies on the fact that certain males actually are surplanting females in some areas of society.
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It's a "joke" that has been around in very similar formats since *checks notes* well over 100 years ago.

I seem to remember there being sketches about the "ring girls" on TV in the 90's.

It also plays very much not on "supplanting females" but on how stupid the whole thing is.
 
Sliver said:
If the women are ok with it then why are people against it? Movie stars get paid well for looking good rather than their acting ability, but I can't see anyone moaning about them. My view is if they want to be paid for looking good then ok, it's their choice and we should respect that.
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The sport shouldn’t be needlessly objectifying women, if they used a variety of models of different sexes dressed in different ways for the role then I wouldn’t have a problem with it but the overall message from using attractive women as ring girls, pit girls etc etc is to assign a value to a women for her looks and present an image to a wider audience which isn’t particularly pleasant or helpful.

Yes on a superficial level women choosing to earn money from being good looking isn’t an issue but when you dig further into it the issues are multifaceted and as their presence makes no difference to the game being played then I’m happy for them to go.
 
a1ex2001 said:
The sport shouldn’t be needlessly objectifying women, if they used a variety of models of different sexes dressed in different ways for the role then I wouldn’t have a problem with it but the overall message from using attractive women as ring girls, pit girls etc etc is to assign a value to a women for her looks and present an image to a wider audience which isn’t particularly pleasant or helpful.
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Everything is needless up to a point. Do they need a big podium at the end of the race. Do they need a big bottle of bubbly? Do they need to travel around the world every week? Do they need to drive cars that fast?

The grid girls job is to look attractive. In the same way that a cooks job is to be able to cook food. The same way an F1 drivers job is to drive really fast around a track. By your logic we should have some good drivers, some bad, some women, some men. Wouldn't want a job that is essentially looking good to be dominated by people who are good at that like every other profession...

Society assigns value to looks. Always has and always will. The same way it assigns value to height, weight, intelligence, sociopathic behaviour, nice behaviour, being sociable etc. Thats how everything works. Why do you think a huge proportion of pop stars are attractive, film stars, people on TV. People like to look at attractive things. They like to go to pretty places. They like to look at attractive people.

In fact I am going to start a petition to have more failed doctors allowed to practice because its outrageous that we discriminate against the less able academically.

They are at the F1 to add some glamour. The same reason they have massive bottles of champagne. Its all a big show.
 
fez said:
They are at the F1 to add some glamour. The same reason they have massive bottles of champagne. Its all a big show.
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Indeed just look at the advertising for F1.

Disproportionately the more exciting 'lifestyle' products.

Flash cars/ associated components, alcoholic drinks and mixers, sports clothing, luxury watches and formerly a lot of cigarettes.

There's a reason why more mundane (and often cheaper) products rarely end up adorning race cars and race tracks.

And it's not because of the lack of exposure offered but because F1 is all about selling glamour.
 
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fez said:
Everything is needless up to a point. Do they need a big podium at the end of the race. Do they need a big bottle of bubbly? Do they need to travel around the world every week? Do they need to drive cars that fast?

The grid girls job is to look attractive. In the same way that a cooks job is to be able to cook food. The same way an F1 drivers job is to drive really fast around a track. By your logic we should have some good drivers, some bad, some women, some men. Wouldn't want a job that is essentially looking good to be dominated by people who are good at that like every other profession...

Society assigns value to looks. Always has and always will. The same way it assigns value to height, weight, intelligence, sociopathic behaviour, nice behaviour, being sociable etc. Thats how everything works. Why do you think a huge proportion of pop stars are attractive, film stars, people on TV. People like to look at attractive things. They like to go to pretty places. They like to look at attractive people.

In fact I am going to start a petition to have more failed doctors allowed to practice because its outrageous that we discriminate against the less able academically.

They are at the F1 to add some glamour. The same reason they have massive bottles of champagne. Its all a big show.
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None of your other comparisons make sense though, the issue is the objectification of women, the use or grid girls/ring girls reduces the value of a woman to simply her looks every thing else you list requires at least some skill. Yes our society is horribly biased towards looks but that doesn't mean we should encourage it by using women to 'add glamour'. I really struggle to see why people fail to understand this point, thank god society seem to be moving past it even if it will be leaving some of you behind.
 
visibleman said:
Quite, although i'm not surprised @dowie and the usual crowd fell for it though...
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You and your crowd labelling this sort of public performance a 'joke' is not the big brain take your seem to think it is.

Again the deliberate gaslighting and lack of any coherent standards of the progressives comes out to play....


On one hand....

'Duh of course this was a joke!'

But them on the other hand...

.... when the ridiculousness of exactly the same thing happening elsewhere is pointed out some people start screeching about all sorts of phobias and supposed bigotry.

So which is it? Can we all point out the ridiculousness of such scenarios and take the **** out of any one that takes them seriously or was Eastasia always at war with Oceania?
 
a1ex2001 said:
None of your other comparisons make sense though, the issue is the objectification of women, the use or grid girls/ring girls reduces the value of a woman to simply her looks every thing else you list requires at least some skill. Yes our society is horribly biased towards looks but that doesn't mean we should encourage it by using women to 'add glamour'. I really struggle to see why people fail to understand this point, thank god society seem to be moving past it even if it will be leaving some of you behind.
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No it doesn't. We don't ask female scientists to show us their sporting prowess or get their kit off. Does being a scientist reduce the value of women to simply her intellect?

Its just people whinging and finding fault with something they don't like and tacking it onto the idea of progress. Well done us, we have fought the horrible idea of attractive people getting paid to be attractive. Do you want to get rid of all models and make sure that everyone on TV and in film is average looking?

There is skill to anything at the top level whether you want to see it or not. There is skill to looking good. There is skill in the way they walk and interact with people on the grid and in promotional settings. The fact that you think they are literally just talentless eye candy is perhaps more of a reflection of your ignorance on the matter.
 
Caracus2k said:
You and your crowd labelling this sort of public performance a 'joke' is not the big brain take your seem to think it is.

Again the deliberate gaslighting and lack of any coherent standards of the progressives comes out to play....


On one hand....

'Duh of course this was a joke!'

But them on the other hand...

.... when the ridiculousness of exactly the same thing happening elsewhere is pointed out some people start screeching about all sorts of phobias and supposed bigotry.

So which is it? Can we all point out the ridiculousness of such scenarios and take the **** out of any one that takes them seriously or was Eastasia always at war with Oceania?
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No, the joke was this Avi (whoever they are) posting a video on the 1st April supposedly showing that grid girls are back, which they aren't, and have been replaced by drag artists, they haven't because.....previous point.
That's the long and short of it :)

As for "the ridiculousness", what's ridiculous exactly? Having drag acts and/or fans at the race? As that isn't particularly a new thing...
 
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