Poll: Poll : Are you waiting to buy Cyberpunk 2077?

[Angilion]

[..] Once I am done with main mission and side missions I will be doing that. [..]

I'm planning on doing that before the main mission and many of the side missions. For me, that's the main attraction of open world games. What's over there? Can I get on that roof? Is there a hidden room in that building? Is there a note on that corpse? In that bag? What junk can I scav from everywhere? Can I talk to that person? Main mission? Oh yeah, I'll get around to that after I've explored this area. Maybe.

 

[Angilion]

Lol calm down I'm just giving my own opinion based on my own experience.

No, you aren't. You're stating that any other opinion is irrational and morally wrong, regardless of what that opinion is and what evidence is behind it. That's what I object to. Other people have said that (a) they like the game and (b) it runs OK on their PC. I didn't object to that.

 

[TNA]

No, they are not confined to cosmetic stuff or minor annoyances. Many of them are. Some of those are funny, like your character stripping naked and T-posing on their motorbike while they're riding it. But there are also quest-breaking bugs and game-breaking bugs on PC. Not everyone encounters them. But some people do. Some people encounter them frequently. The game runs fine on some combinations of hardware and not on others. You got lucky.

Then there's all the content that was advertised as being in the game and isn't because the game was cut down at the last minute in order to have a usually mostly working version to sell before Christmas. That's not good.

But you've already made it clear that you don't care about the truth and won't allow anything other than adulation. That's what using the word "hater" means. It is, of course, a lie. Acknowledging imperfections is not hatred. You know that.

While I agree with most of what you are saying, I find the only consequence for me is that CDPR will have lost their status as highest tier can do no wrong dev/pub. I mean we all know they will likely slowly fix the bugs and add things back in. They will probably try and make it up to us somehow also assuming they are cash rich again and can afford to.

The mistake they made was to over hype/promise and then rush to release, when really they needed 1-2 more years to get it to where they would have wanted.

I'm planning on doing that before the main mission and many of the side missions. For me, that's the main attraction of open world games. What's over there? Can I get on that roof? Is there a hidden room in that building? Is there a note on that corpse? In that bag? What junk can I scav from everywhere? Can I talk to that person? Main mission? Oh yeah, I'll get around to that after I've explored this area. Maybe.

The game is so big you will spend 50 hours or more doing that i recon and that is without touching anything else. That is why I am doing it once there is nothing left to do. It is a way of further exploring.

 

[Glanza]

Got it bought for Xmas and only done the first mission but I'd got bugs of random floating phones and characters walking through walls / lockers. Going to wait a little longer.

 

[Jono8]

Yes, will buy it when the series X patch is out and it's cheaper.

Looks like it is quite fun (gunplay/story etc), albeit slightly disappointing compared to what was promised (ie the police/wanted mechanic and limited open world immersion look really rubbish)

 

[ne0]

No, you aren't. You're stating that any other opinion is irrational and morally wrong, regardless of what that opinion is and what evidence is behind it. That's what I object to. Other people have said that (a) they like the game and (b) it runs OK on their PC. I didn't object to that.

Right.... Whatever you say mate

 

[Angilion]

Right.... Whatever you say mate

It's what you said, not what I said. Anyone who cares can click back through the posts and see for themselves. Unless, of course, you're saying that "hatred" means "anything other than adulation, no matter how reasonably expressed" and that what other people think and say is your opinion. In which case you're just wrong in a rather bizarre way.

 

[smogsy]

pre-ordered it played it for 2 hours, but decided to wait a few months. played Witcher 3 on release & it was a bit buggy too So rather wait & play it when fixed up

 

[Sp00n]

Bought it post release, 50hrs in to it now and still enjoying it, don't think I'm hugely far through the story but I've done a whole bunch of side missions, fortunately performance has been good and is runnning fine for me on pc, only had one CTD so far and had to reload a previous save once when I lost the ability to enter cars or draw weapons.

 

[ne0]

It's what you said, not what I said. Anyone who cares can click back through the posts and see for themselves. Unless, of course, you're saying that "hatred" means "anything other than adulation, no matter how reasonably expressed" and that what other people think and say is your opinion. In which case you're just wrong in a rather bizarre way.

Actually if you must know I was referring to the general hyperbole around bugs and issues with the game from ignoramuses on You Tube and the like.... not once did I ever discount the people who are genuinely having issues... I'm a pc gamer with a better than average understanding of these things not some console idiot with no clue. My advice to you would be to probe a bit more gently on posts that trigger you before jumping to conclusions about what people mean and quoting them on something which they didn't even say.

Peace.

 

[StrongSad]

150 hours in and still loving it. I did not read into all the hype before launch as I only really jumped on the hype train a week or so before release. So I had no idea of what was promised and not delivered. There are lots of glitches and bugs but I am have been lucky in that I have only had CTD's when using the steam overlay (specifical chat) however there is stuff that I can see would annoy people. The world is massive and very open, however, there is a lot of stuff that could have been added to bring it to life further. Would I buy it now? up to you. However, performance needs sorting out in busy area's and graphical glitches need sorting. Also the world defo needs a balance both crafting and mods. Once you have to tools needed, most is 1 shot kills. As someone who had no preconceptions of what it was before release. Totally love the game.

 

[Angilion]

Got it bought for Xmas and only done the first mission but I'd got bugs of random floating phones and characters walking through walls / lockers. Going to wait a little longer.

It gets much worse than that. Here's an example, one of many. No details, so it's not a spoiler.

You get a mission to go to a go to a place and do a thing (I'm really trying to avoid any spoilers ). The location is a low U-shaped building with a central courtyard/car park. You get into a firefight with some gang members. The immediate quest objective becomes to kill the gang members.

Some of them are in the courtyard/car park and some are in the surrounding building. You kill them all, clearing the building. Every room.

The quest objective remains to kill all the gang members and the quest marker points to a location underneath the courtyard/car park.

Obviously there's a concealed area down there, maybe originally an underground parking area. Completely appropriate for the gameworld. Maybe they use it for storing stolen merchandise. Maybe something more sinister. Maybe it's just a gang clubhouse. You'll find out when you find the entrance to it that must be concealed in the building...

...you can't find it. You've searched everywhere. You've used your high tech visual aids to scan the area. You've read everything for clues. You've come up empty.

Eventually, you go online to find the location of the concealed entrance and find out that the whole thing is yet another bug. During the fight, a car with some gang members in it was supposed to drive up and the gang members inside were to join the fight. But it didn't and the quest objective includes those gang members, so you now have to kill some gang members who aren't in the gameworld because the car they were in didn't spawn into the gameworld. The quest object pointing to underground is due to unknown reasons. Maybe a "sort of in the gameworld but not really" dev room type of thing. You have to reload an old save, redo the mission and hope it works this time. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't.

There's far too much of "You have to reload an old save, redo the mission and hope it works this time. Maybe it will. Maybe it won't." in Cyberpunk 2077 at the moment and in many cases it's not clear that anything has gone wrong at all. The floating phones, characters walking through things, invisible guns and other such things are at least obvious bugs so you know there is a bug. Bugs where it's not clear anything has gone wrong are much worse. What if, for example, a player who encountered the bug I describe above decided to go do something else in the game and came back to that mission an hour or two of gameplay later to look for the concealed entrance again? It's the sort of thing players do, especially in an open world game. Put a quest you're stuck on aside for a while while you do other things, then come back to it with fresh eyes.

[..] The mistake they made was to over hype/promise and then rush to release, when really they needed 1-2 more years to get it to where they would have wanted. [..]

Which is a failure at the top and that doesn't bode well for the company.

I mean we all know they will likely slowly fix the bugs and add things back in. They will probably try and make it up to us somehow also assuming they are cash rich again and can afford to. [..]

They would have been a lot more cash rich if they hadn't released a game so badly broken and so different to what they were advertising that Sony and Microsoft stopped selling it and gave refunds to anyone who asked for one. The people making decisions at CDPR crapped on their own company with this one. As well as their employees, apparently.

Presumably at least some of the stuff that was removed from the game at the last minute to try to cobble together something they thought they could get away with releasing is at least fairly close to completion now. Maybe they'll finish some of it and release it with an apology. Or maybe they'll double down and try to sell the cut content as a string of DLCs, £10 each. Hopefully the former.

They should probably be phoning Hello Games and asking for help. Although No Man's Sky was a lot less buggy at launch than Cyberpunk 2077 is and a lot of the hype for it wasn't the dev's fault, there are a lot of things in common and Hello Games turned it around in about a year. CDPR has far more resources, so they should be able to do the same. As with No Man's Sky, there's a lot of potential.

 

[chroniclard]

Nope, playing it on Xbox Series X and had barely any issues(so far), loving it.

Sounds like it sucks for you PC peasants!

 

[Kronos]

Decided that I really don't fancy it.

 

[no_1_dave]

Tbh it's not just CP77, this my approach to every game these days, i'll take the completed and patched version for 80% off thanks. Yep tons to play through, I really want Horizon ZD, but not until they're practically giving it away.

I agree with most of this, however

1) I bought Cyberpunk on release and don't regret it at all
2) Played Horizon Zero Dawn for 100 hours and not had a single crash or bugs

Other games, yea I always wait. Got far too many games yet to play through to buy most new releases at full price

 

[TNA]

Which is a failure at the top and that doesn't bode well for the company.

I think they will be fine. They had a lot of goodwill before hand. All it means is they will not be able to make the same mistake again as they burned through a lot of that goodwill. I personally forgive them and would be happy to pre-order a sequel.

They would have been a lot more cash rich if they hadn't released a game so badly broken and so different to what they were advertising that Sony and Microsoft stopped selling it and gave refunds to anyone who asked for one. The people making decisions at CDPR crapped on their own company with this one. As well as their employees, apparently.

Presumably at least some of the stuff that was removed from the game at the last minute to try to cobble together something they thought they could get away with releasing is at least fairly close to completion now. Maybe they'll finish some of it and release it with an apology. Or maybe they'll double down and try to sell the cut content as a string of DLCs, £10 each. Hopefully the former.

They should probably be phoning Hello Games and asking for help. Although No Man's Sky was a lot less buggy at launch than Cyberpunk 2077 is and a lot of the hype for it wasn't the dev's fault, there are a lot of things in common and Hello Games turned it around in about a year. CDPR has far more resources, so they should be able to do the same. As with No Man's Sky, there's a lot of potential.

It is not like the guys at the top did not know this. Obviously they had no choice after delaying two times already. The mistake likely was biting more than they could chew and end up in such a position. I am pretty confident they will fix the bugs and start adding stuff back to the game. By next xmas it will likely resemble something similar to what they promised.

 

[ianh]

It gets much worse than that.

Only for some players however as there's no "universal" stability bugs which have a negative effect for every single player in the game. So maybe pull back a little from the "if it effected my game then it must be like that for everyone" as thats just not the case, for example.........

There's far too much of "You have to reload an old save, redo the mission and hope it works this time.

I've had to do it twice, in 150hrs of game play and both times was because I was doing something "out of expected order" i.e. shooting people through walls instead of talking to them first. So, again, whilst I absolutely agree that for some players the game is a CTD, bug-riddled nightmare making the game unplayable (which is a huge disappointment), for others like myself it's very stable with only minor "visual" bugs (clipping, missing guns, T-Posing etc) which don't have a negative effect on the gameplay requiring constant save game reloads to fix.

CDPR really, desperately, need to figure out these stability issues as the current situation with some people being fine and some unable to play for more than a few minutes - forcing fans to take a 50/50 gamble as to whether it'll work or not once they pay £50 - is just unacceptable IMHO.

 

[Kelt]

Started it, was enjoying it for a while, but the dumb AI, graphical glitches, quest bugs, awful UI and soulless city have got to me, haven't played it for a few days now.

I doubt it will ever get fixed to the state I hoped for from CDPR, having played all three Witcher games.

Will give it a few months and see how it is then.

 

[Haggisman]

This.

78 hours and it's easily the the best game I have played in the last couple of years of what has been a **** show for gaming!

- performance could be better
- only bugs I have encountered has been some floating objects, subtitles coming on even though they are disabled
- levelling seems a bit out of touch i.e. either severely under powered or now way too OP
- HDR broke
- NPCs AI could be better

+ not had any crashes
+ Stunning graphics (even if the default effects have been downgraded a ton to make RTX look better than what it really is but I digress....)
+ Stunning open world/city design, if a fan of blade runner, fifth element or/and dredd, this is the first game to really give that atmosphere/world in a game
+ no pointless waffling with every single NPC you encounter every 15 minutes for 30 minutes..... *cough* witcher 3 *cough*
+ great likeable characters
+ great story on the whole except the ending and the side quests are very good too
+ loads to do

Will replay a different life path once it has been patched and HDR is fixed.

Likewise.

Running fine* on a Ryzen 3600x & RX 6800, HDR seems to be working for me as well (although did need some significant tweaking - the default settings are awful!).

After ~20 hours, I've encountered quite a few bugs, but only minor ones, enemies clipping into walls, cars spawning on top of each other, some items can't be picked up for "reasons", but certainly nothing game breaking, had my first and only (touch wood) CTD last night.

It's certainly not flawless, some observations:

• It's too easy to get away with a crime. Get 4 stars, and you can drive for 0.5km in any direction, with nobody chasing you, and lose the status within 20 seconds, with no lasting effects.
• Car handling is awful, most of them feel like you're sliding on ice constantly.
• Interaction with non-story NPCs is basically non-existent.
• Street-cred is basically just a parallel "level up". From various preview material, I was under the impression that this would be far more dynamic, e.g. based on your gear & actions etc (get all armoured up like a Miltech operative and you are tough to kill, but not exactly "cool", run around in a sharp suit, or dressed like a street punk and you're weaker, but get more respect). This may just be my wrong perception however.
• Hacking is overpowered. Like seriously. You can invest 5-6 points in it, buy a decent deck, and clear out most side mission areas without drawing a weapon.

Despite all the above, I'm definitely enjoying it. Not done much of the main quest line yet, just been having fun cruising around the city doing side missions and admiring the view.




* performance could be better, I'm running at 4k ultra and it struggles to get above 40ps, but saying that I've got vsync set at 30 and it feels perfectly smooth (playing on controller on my TV). Still expected a bit more though, I can run RDR2 at 4k/60fps, which is arguably a better looking game (or at least on par with CP2077)

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

Started it, was enjoying it for a while, but the dumb AI, graphical glitches, quest bugs, awful UI and soulless city have got to me, haven't played it for a few days now.

I doubt it will ever get fixed to the state I hoped for from CDPR, having played all three Witcher games.

Will give it a few months and see how it is then.

Exactly but certain people will come along to say 100+ hrs and no issues so the game is fine.

Unless they plan a huge update along with next gen patch the AI and city will remain the same. They launched the game with limited physics,effects and NPC AI for a reason and the reason is probably because that's as good as they can offer without completely overhauling the entire game.

I'll wait until February to finish when they said they will have fixed the game but I suspect they meant consoles.