Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th

[Tunney]

The Tories propose a wealth tax and suddenly the left are all up in arms...

I'm in two minds about it. Yes, the wealthier will pay more but only those who need to need care will pay. It's halfway between a wealth tax and a lottery. I think it would be better if the cost was spread across everyone who's wealthy rather than the unfortunate 10%.

Also, it's not "the left" who are up in arms. It seems people across the spectrum have trouble with this one.

 

[StriderX]

lol - people won't have assets in the future?

If all your assets are extremely quick to depreciate, then they're basically trash, and the future is pretty much everyone renting from a bunch of evil ********.

 

[Uther]

Exactly what I said earlier. There will come a point where the majority of low and middle income earners will not have any property because it was simply unaffordable. What happens then?

It'll be Labours fault of course.

 

[Diddums]

Lol, labour's such a joke. Corbyn is clearly not capable of running a country and will have us back in the stone ages within a decade. If he became PM I'd start selling Ray Mears survival books because we'd all be rubbing sticks together to make fire in no time. Does the guy even think or have a brain? His logic is "we'll take more from the rich to give to the poor". Yes, that's great, let's take cash from the very people who are paying the most into the system and **** them off. Who knows, maybe they won't all leave!

 

[Uther]

Lol, labour's such a joke. Corbyn is clearly not capable of running a country and will have us back in the stone ages within a decade. If he became PM I'd start selling Ray Mears survival books because we'd all be rubbing sticks together to make fire in no time. Does the guy even think or have a brain? His logic is "we'll take more from the rich to give to the poor". Yes, that's great, let's take cash from the very people who are paying the most into the system and **** them off. Who knows, maybe they won't all leave!

Have you not seen what May's done today...

 

[stewski]

So you honestly belive Corbyn when he says he's going to raise all that money from taxing rich people and pay for all that stuff he promised? You believe him, on his election campaign, over say... the IFS? Wowsers. I knew Corbyn fanboys followed in blind faith but I'm quite taken aback.

The institute founded by a Conservative Party Politician and Investment trust manager, stockbroker and tax consultant?
It's hardly got a reputation for being bipartisan so no.

Perhaps on the flip side you can consider that you plough through the many critical points I've made of May's handling of brexit in the brief time she has had with little though or care of if they have merit.

Frankly we are not heading towards being the new Hong Kong hub we could be under her bull in a china shop diplomatic efforts. I wont even mention the snoopers charter and the ideology of austerity, just to make it a fair fight!

 

[antijoke]

lol - people won't have assets in the future?

having people pay for their care when they've got substantial assets isn't going to wipe out wealth - the average for residential care was 50-90k I'd suspect the average for carer visits in your own home will be much lower... people will still inherit wealth - they'll just have a few grand knocked off the six figure inheritance... boo hoo.

I dare say a large majority of the UK population in the future will no have homes to put up front to pay for care.

 

[dowie]

I think it would be better if the cost was spread across everyone who's wealthy rather than the unfortunate 10%.

I don't see why it should be - some people will live with relatives for example (especially in the case of say Asian families) - that is their choice/culture and they probably won't need to pay for care as a result. On the other hand if the offspring move 200 miles away and leave the state to care for their elderly relative then maybe they'll get a lower inheritance.

If all your assets are extremely quick to depreciate, then they're basically trash, and the future is pretty much everyone renting from a bunch of evil ********.

I know I know - I forgot - the entire country will be owned by evil buy to let landlords who all voted for Brexit

 

[dalehitchy1]

plaid cymru well said

 

[RoboCod]

The institute founded by a Conservative Party Politician and Investment trust manager, stockbroker and tax consultant?
It's hardly got a reputation for being bipartisan so no.

Perhaps on the flip side you can consider that you plough through the many critical points I've made of May's handling of brexit in the brief time she has had with little though or care of if they have merit.

Frankly we are not heading towards being the new Hong Kong hub we could be under her bull in a china shop diplomatic efforts. I wont even mention the snoopers charter and the ideology of austerity, just to make it a fair fight!

Got to love that last bit of self gratification. Go give yourself a pat on the back there, you scamp you.

Face it, labour are done. They'll have the worst result since the 30s with less than 200 seats and all that means is the future government will lack any strong opposition. Bravo Corbyn.

 

[Diddums]

Have you not seen what May's done today...

No, to be honest I had an absolute bitch of a day so didn't see / hear much news. I'll catch up again tomorrow.

Got to love that last bit of self gratification. Go give yourself a pat on the back there, you scamp you.

Face it, labour are done. They'll have the worst result since the 30s with less than 200 seats and all that means is the future government will lack any strong opposition. Bravo Corbyn.

Bang on. I'm still on the fence about him. On one hand he's keeping labour out of power which is good, but he's so good at it that they won't have a voice at all any more. The guy's delusion really does go to 11.

 

[antijoke]

If this were a football match everyone involved would be investigated for fixing the result, it really is like nobody wants to win at this point.

 

[stewski]

Got to love that last bit of self gratification. Go give yourself a pat on the back there, you scamp you.

Face it, labour are done. They'll have the worst result since the 30s with less than 200 seats and all that means is the future government will lack any strong opposition. Bravo Corbyn.

So still nothing good to say about the leader, the party or the direction you advocating taking the country?
Lets have a red white a blue brexit, but don't dare to invest inwardly, lets just cut everything down or spin it as an "improvement". Odd how the people who have shouted for standing on our own seem so unwilling to invest time or money into doing so.

P.S. You ** Removed - EVH ** suggested "safe spaces" are a greater threat than international terrorism, so this is going no where!

 

[a1ex2001]

As long everyone is clear what the Tory vision of privatised railways is

You said at the start that BR has been dead for 20 years, so history does bear it out. Services are much better now than they have ever been, stations that were closed during nationalisation have re-opened, passengers numbers are well up on nationalisation figures, quality of services improved. Yes prices have gone up but that would have happened under BR too, the difference is now the whole country isn't paying for London to get cheaper tickets.

How do you not get that our 'privatised' railways are massively subsidised by central government so we are all paying so a few share holders can take a 'profit' every year railfares are massively subsidised.

If you want private railways campaign for an end to state subsidies and the sell off off railtrack so the trains and tracks are back as one.

 

[Greebo]

You're misquoting me. I didn't say it wouldn't do anything. I said that it would not be sufficient.

Three times more money than what today's proposal offers. So everybody paying £3.50 a month would come to the same amount as today's deal. If you are saying that isn't worth doing, why is the house thing worth doing?

 

[Tefal]

Have you not seen what May's done today...

whats happened

 

[FishFluff]

I have a question, and it probably seems stupid but i very, very rarely talk politics with the people in my life because it's so divisive.

If you find yourself strongly aligned with a smaller party, will you vote for that party knowing it's unikely to a) enter power or b) prevent a party you dont want from entering power; or will you vote for a larger party that's somewhat aligned to your politics but doesn't necessarily represent you (or you dont particularly like them) as it has a higher chance of a) entering power or b) preventing a party you dont want from entering power.

It depends really. For example in 2015 I voted Green as they most closely matched my political views and I'm in what was classed as a Labour safe seat. I could essentially 'waste' my vote and show my support to the party I felt most closely aligned with.

This time however, with Brexit looming large on the agenda, I'm probably going to vote Labour as there's a very slim chance of the Tories getting in. I despise my Labour MP, but I'm going to hold my nose and vote for her party as a Tory MP would be far worse.

There's no right or wrong answer really

 

[daver]

We've needed to do something about the impending elderly timebomb but no one has wanted to tackle it. May could have taken the easy route and come up with the usual Tory manifesto but it feels like she has actually tried to tackle an issue that hasn't been possible in previous election campaigns. She has probably angered a lot of her biggest supporters (although honestly are they going to vote for anyone else?), but she's probably calculating she can get away with it this election.

It's essentially a wealth tax, that a lot are pretty fond of, yet they are likely to rail against it. People don't pay unless they have £100k of assets and even then they don't pay, their estate does.

 

[Caged]

Burn all olds imo

 

[Greebo]

So I heard Mays speech today and was pretty shocked when she said if we don't get a deal from the Brexit negotiations we will be financially ruined. What happened to no deal is better than a bad deal and Brexit will be fine if we get no deal?