Poll: Poll: Prime Minister Theresa May calls General Election on June 8th
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this thread relates to Corbyn and his IRA sympathies not the wider election... I'll note there is also a separate thread about Theresa May and internet regulation.
Don't forget it isn't just corbyn...
http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-s-new-shadow-chancellor-really-say-about-ira
http://www.newstatesman.com/politic...-s-new-shadow-chancellor-really-say-about-ira
indeed - and Diane Abbot has had some dodgy left wing links in the past, quite probably also has an MI5 file - in fact at one point she advocated getting rid of the security service and special branch... good job she wasn't in a position to do so back in the day lest we'd have some real issues with Islamist attacks these days
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what ? lol
Nothing disingenuous about it. Nothing you have posted this far makes me believe he sympathised with the IRA. I'll concede that perhaps he sympathised and supported the Catholic Nationalist community who believed they were being terrorised and in some instances murdered by state forces at the time - but that's a whole other conversation! The only way to show that support was to attend rallies that were always going to be attended by IRA members.
Hell, if you attend a commeration of the Easter Rising or any other Catholic Nationalist event there's every likelihood you're going to be stood shoulder to shoulder or at least in very close proximity with former (and active) IRA members!
Anywho - this is an agree to disagree moment. I'm not going to convince you he was simply trying to do the best for Northern Ireland as a whole(rightly or wrongly) and your not going to convince me he sympathised with the actions of the IRA.
nonsense - the SDLP didn't condone violence and were a nationalist party... again you're still either in denial or being rather disingenuous here - this is more than attending rallies that they happen to be at but attending rallies specifically in support of them, sharing a stage with a wanted murderer the UK were trying to extradite, attending a vigil for 8 terrorists killed attacking a police station, protesting on behalf of other terrorists...
being in support of a nationalist cause and supporting terrorism do not have to go hand in hand
this isn't agree to disagree - this is just bending the facts... you previously referred to 'an enemy' when there was nothing at all to suggest that they were an enemy in his eyes at all and now you're conflating support for nationalism with inevitably ending up doing the things he did
No, they want to have a second referendum when we know what the implications of leaving are. I don't understand why people have a problem with this. I can't see any downside to it. Though the 'Leave Whatever the Cost' brigade might
Because it substantially weakens the negotiating position of the UK.
Financially it's hugely beneficial to the Eu for the UK to stay in, currently our key negotiating point is that in the event of no deal, we owe the Eu very little (compared to what they would like at any rate). If the alternative to no deal option was us staying in the Eu, there would be no reason for the Eu to negotiate anything else, and to only offer a positively terrible deal to encourage us to stay.
The idea that we can keep asking the question until we get the answer we want may be popular with the left and Europe, but it is not democratic and if ignores the reality of negotiation.
It's because if we have to have a referendum to accept the leave deal or remain in the EU, then that offers every incentive to the EU to dig their heels in and ensure that the only offer on the table isn't a very good one i.e. they know Britain will be much more likely to stay in the EU if there was a choice between that and a bad deal. Such a referendum would immeasurably compromise the government's negotiating position. If you're going into a negotiation you must be prepared to walk away if you aren't going to get enough of what you want.
May isn't going to walk away, we will be in the EU in all but name I reckon. Strong and stable is just a throwaway slogan that is starting to bite them in the arse.
The polls next week could be interesting, after the idea of the death tax has sunk in a bit more. If it does of course. Even in the poll here (not that it means anything, much trolling going on) the Cons have dropped .6% in a couple of days.
The polls next week could be interesting, after the idea of the death tax has sunk in a bit more. If it does of course. Even in the poll here (not that it means anything, much trolling going on) the Cons have dropped .6% in a couple of days.
It's about time people wake up to the deal we're going to get from the EU. Which is pretty much like being in it, without having any say in how it is run. It wouldn't surprise me if our financial contributions end up higher.
There's no way any political party is going to walk away from Europe. The consequences will be so dramatic that being the party responsible would make them forever unelectable.
Chatting about negotiations and strengthening our hand is delusional. We have no hand to play other than a losing one.
We had the best deal going. We gave it up. We ain't getting anything better.
There's no way any political party is going to walk away from Europe. The consequences will be so dramatic that being the party responsible would make them forever unelectable.
Chatting about negotiations and strengthening our hand is delusional. We have no hand to play other than a losing one.
We had the best deal going. We gave it up. We ain't getting anything better.
Well we already know what happens to MP's who were just campaigning to remain (A very particular MP), If May thinks she can back peddle after all the "no deal is best", "hard brexit" and "strong and stable" crap, I wonder how some mentally disturbed people with far right views will think of her if she lied about all of that?
Yes we are - we're getting sovereignty. Economic disaster, destruction of the NHS, decline in our global standing and influence maybe, but sovereignty for sure.
yes it is - you can't change the definition of the term. your view of the facts are different to mine. get over it. feel free to quote and repost your view point and get the last word in. I wont be replying to you. your blinkered view is stopping you seeing anything other than what you want to see. no amount of posting wiki links or news articles is going to convince me that Jeremy Corbyn supported or sympathised with the IRA in their campaign against the British people - his own people.
on that note i'll bid you good day sir and return to more pressing matters - AMD's Ryzen Agesa updates.
This isn't buying a car, and treating it as if it is similar is very dangerous indeed. It is almost impossible to overstate how harmful a "no deal" outcome would be to the UK.
We're not getting sovereignty. We already have sovereignty, and we've never lost it.
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