Poor Nokia

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Well the spit has hit the fan it would seem as Nokia's CEO dishes out a company memo, here's an extract:

Stephen Elop said:
"The first iPhone shipped in 2007, and we still don't have a product that is close to their experience. Android came on the scene just over 2 years ago, and this week they took our leadership position in smartphone volumes. Unbelievable."
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Read the full article here: http://goo.gl/ZKGeU

You can't say that nobody didn't warn them and with the attitude Nokia had toward other mobile vendors it's no wonder it has come to this.
 
There problem is there outdated op system they use if they had just jumped on the Android band wagon or WP7 they would be in a much better place, from what I have seen there phones are under powered with naff symbian on.
 
Yeah but I think jumping on WP7 when it's still a new OS gathering ground would be better but still not an immediate success - I think jumping on Android post Android 2.1 would have been the best solution and then doing a HTC and adding WP7 to it's portfolio once WP7 is established and fully capable.
 
Good to see them taking notice, at last. I've never bought a Nokia phone and may never will unless they get things sorted. I'm not much of a fan of their designs, but the software is horrific; poorly designed and rubbish to use.
 
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I for one will be chaining my phone very soon. Since the early day's I have always used Nokia phones because I like what they did and how they did it.

Now though it seems I cant even get decent internet (BBC Mobile) now on my N86 as they have drop support for WML.

Time for change me thinks - One thing is I will not be going for an iPhone - something just puts me off them. Will be looking at something with the Android OS.

Would like to stay with Nokia but seriously doubt they will have something in the marketplace soon.
 
If Nokia did shift to Android and spent money on developing some decent hardware we could see some great new phones hitting the market which would only be good for competition. Would probably also be another blow to the iPhone and iOS if a giant like Nokia started using Android.
 
martynbez said:
Yeah dont know why they have not gone the Android route.
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Because Android isn't very profitable. Android is turning the mobile phone business into a clone of the PC market. When everyone is competing on hardware specs alone, margins get squeezed.

Nokia needs a competitive platform and I hope that they can develop it in-house. I don't think the world needs an Apple-Google duopoly in the smartphone market.

However, I would like to see Nokia partner with someone when it comes to services. Apart from Ovi Maps, Nokia's services strategy has completely failed. Getting a decent mail/music/video service on their phones would be a big boost.
 
Lets face it...nokia were asking for it, and it serves them right tbh.... i laughed when the N8 came out. Its just useless compared to Top Droids and iphone4.
 
It serves them right (we all know that in hindsight) and this is not unexpected. It will be interesting to see what the sleeping giant can achieve now that he's woken up.
 
Nokia can, and should adopt Android. They could actually work in partnership with Google to make it an even better experience. Generally, I have no moans about Nokia hardware and have always felt they make very good phones but the OS is pants. It's like Microsoft still using Windows 95 but they just keep patching it to make it appear fresher and newer rather than kicking off from sqaure one.

I do fear though that any Nokia experience would bloat Android to the point of frustration. If it's rootable though then this should be a no brainer decision for future phone purchases.
 
Lucero said:
Nokia can, and should adopt Android. They could actually work in partnership with Google to make it an even better experience.
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That's not how Google works, sadly. It's their platform and they're not going to let anyone else help steer the ship.

There's also the problem of hardware support. Stock Android ships only with support for Qualcomm application processors/basebands. Nokia and Qualcomm aren't exactly best of friends. Most of Nokia's top-end phones are based on either their own hardware or TI-based silicon.

Nokia could add support to Android for non-Qualcomm hardware but that takes time. Would people buy a Nokia Android phone if it wasn't running the very latest version of Android? People seem annoyed enough at Sony Ericsson and Samsung for not releasing the latest version of Android straight away for their phones.

WP7 I could see happening but wouldn't bet my house on. Android? No way.
 
reflux said:
Good to see them taking notice, at last. I've never bought a Nokia phone and may never will unless they get things sorted. I'm not much of a fan of their designs, but the software is horrific; poorly designed and rubbish to use.
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Nokia have been the best phones I've ever used, the old E62 and I currently use an E72. Rubbish to use? It's the most solid, reliable, usable phone I've used.
 
Khaaan! said:
Yeah but I think jumping on WP7 when it's still a new OS gathering ground would be better but still not an immediate success - I think jumping on Android post Android 2.1 would have been the best solution and then doing a HTC and adding WP7 to it's portfolio once WP7 is established and fully capable.
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I love how frank how he has been. You don't see that everyday in companies, usually it is masked by how well they are doing and what they are doing to "expand their markets".

Plus, I think them jumping onto the WP7 is great. It's probably going to drive the development of WP7 a lot I hope. HTC ad Samsung are too bothered with Android to give a damn about WP7. How many Phone have HTC and Samsung announced for new releases of WP7 phones (I guess MWC will tell)?

I reckon Nokia can push the development of WP7 (especially as Elop is ex-MS). Nokia are still on of the biggest handset makers in the world, and they have fans in northern Europe.
 
Tunney said:
That's not how Google works, sadly. It's their platform and they're not going to let anyone else help steer the ship.
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Android is a product of the Open Handset Alliance, which is lead by Google. Partners help drive the development and direction of Android, such as the large input Sony had in driving the gaming features of 2.3.

Tunney said:
There's also the problem of hardware support. Stock Android ships only with support for Qualcomm application processors/basebands. Nokia and Qualcomm aren't exactly best of friends. Most of Nokia's top-end phones are based on either their own hardware or TI-based silicon.
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The OHA includes Semiconductor companies too, each iteration of Android is developed around a certain chipset.
2.0 = TI OMAP 36xx series
2.1 = 1st gen Snapdragon
2.3 = Samsung's hummingbird based SoC
3.0 = Tegra 2
 
clv101 said:
Nokia have been the best phones I've ever used, the old E62 and I currently use an E72. Rubbish to use? It's the most solid, reliable, usable phone I've used.
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lolwut, the E72 is shocking. I owned for 4 weeks before I literally threw it away because it kept hanging, crashing.

Switched for a Desire ;)
 
sarge78 said:
Android is a product of the Open Handset Alliance, which is lead by Google. Partners help drive the development and direction of Android, such as the large input Sony had in driving the gaming features of 2.3.



The OHA includes Semiconductor companies too, each iteration of Android is developed around a certain chipset.
2.0 = TI OMAP 36xx series
2.1 = 1st gen Snapdragon
2.3 = Samsung's hummingbird based SoC
3.0 = Tegra 2
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The full list of semiconductor companies involved in the OHA is here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_Handset_Alliance#Members
 
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