Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

At 40k find a nice Carrera 997.2 PDK, lovely to drive, very safe for the Mrs and huge fun for when you want to drive it. 40k should get you a low mileage well spec clean example.

Alternatively a 997.2 C2S manual/PDK but will be higher mileage and not the best example at 40k, best to shop around.
 
Okay started to look at options for a new car for the missus and one car we have both had on our car bucket list is a 911, with a budget of say £35-40k is this something worth considering? and if so what model/spec would you spend that on?

Any info appreciated. :)

Plenty of choice for that amount, I'd initially looked at getting a gen1 until I read about the ims issues etc so upped my budget so tried to keep it under 35k which was a bit harder to find, ended up with a 2010 model manual silver carerra with quite a few extras for 33k which had just been serviced and had had a recent clutch, mines just gone past 60k so far loving it, I'd like to have got a S, maybe next time :)
 
40k is a good budget for a 911! You'll do well not to be too fussy with things like colour and exact things on the options list as you're more likely to bag a good car.

Prices unfortunately will be inflated at this time of year, but there are plenty to choose from. Interestingly low mileage gen 1's are starting to overlap in price with higher mileage gen 2 cars. The gen 1 carerra S and the gen 2 carrera are pretty much the same power, but the S benefits from PASM and larger brakes as standard. The non-S versions do benefit from cheaper brake components though! Both cars have their problems and a pre-purchase inspection is great for peace of mind, the dealer sorted a few minor problems which I would never have spotted otherwise. You can still warranty a gen 1 car if you like, however when I calculated the cost of getting mine warrantied it was getting close to the cost of an engine rebuild anyway (change tyres, major Porsche service, removal of bluetooth module, warranty cost etc etc). I ended up with a gen 1 because I wanted a low mileage, low owner car and couldn't stretch my budget north of £40k for a similar condition gen 2.

Things to consider - 2006 cars have an updated IMS bearing which apparently is much less likely to fail, but is harder to replace prophylactically. The RMS has also undergone continual evolution throughout the years so the later ones *may* leak less often. Bore scoring is a variable feast and can be fixed - gen 2 cars can suffer from this too (for different reasons) so not bad to take a look in the bores with an inspection. Best to buy one without it, love the car, put miles on it and like most high performance sports cars, eventually get the engine rebuilt.

Anyway, have fun looking for the perfect car! Good ones don't hang around!
 
40k is a good budget for a 911! You'll do well not to be too fussy with things like colour and exact things on the options list as you're more likely to bag a good car.

Prices unfortunately will be inflated at this time of year, but there are plenty to choose from. Interestingly low mileage gen 1's are starting to overlap in price with higher mileage gen 2 cars. The gen 1 carerra S and the gen 2 carrera are pretty much the same power, but the S benefits from PASM and larger brakes as standard. The non-S versions do benefit from cheaper brake components though! Both cars have their problems and a pre-purchase inspection is great for peace of mind, the dealer sorted a few minor problems which I would never have spotted otherwise. You can still warranty a gen 1 car if you like, however when I calculated the cost of getting mine warrantied it was getting close to the cost of an engine rebuild anyway (change tyres, major Porsche service, removal of bluetooth module, warranty cost etc etc). I ended up with a gen 1 because I wanted a low mileage, low owner car and couldn't stretch my budget north of £40k for a similar condition gen 2.

Things to consider - 2006 cars have an updated IMS bearing which apparently is much less likely to fail, but is harder to replace prophylactically. The RMS has also undergone continual evolution throughout the years so the later ones *may* leak less often. Bore scoring is a variable feast and can be fixed - gen 2 cars can suffer from this too (for different reasons) so not bad to take a look in the bores with an inspection. Best to buy one without it, love the car, put miles on it and like most high performance sports cars, eventually get the engine rebuilt.

Anyway, have fun looking for the perfect car! Good ones don't hang around!
It's worth bearing in mind that the gen 2 comes with a more usable (so I've heard) pasm and the pcm is updated. I think the gen 2 has less too worry about and you get the option of pdk rather than the slush box.
 
It's worth bearing in mind that the gen 2 comes with a more usable (so I've heard) pasm and the pcm is updated. I think the gen 2 has less too worry about and you get the option of pdk rather than the slush box.

Absolutely! The Gen 2 engine is decent but not without its problems, so don't expect to spend no money at all. PDK is meant to be a revelation and I would have test driven if I were in the market for a later car. IMO PCM 3 is one of the best reasons to buy a Gen 2 over the earlier car, it's loads better! Can't really comment on PASM.
 
I reckon I could just about get into a 997.2 s as a straight swap from my 996 turbo but then I think for maybe 15 grand more I could get a 991 hmm decisions.

Save up for the 991. I think you'd miss the performance of the Turbo if you switched to a 997 (unless it was a GTS). Wait a couple of years and you'll probably not have to shell out as much as £15k to make the swap.
 
Save up for the 991. I think you'd miss the performance of the Turbo if you switched to a 997 (unless it was a GTS). Wait a couple of years and you'll probably not have to shell out as much as £15k to make the swap.
Thats what im leaning towards. The problem is my turbo is at 99,000 miles ad theres a stigma in this country on cars over 100,000 for some historic reason. Obviously whichever i go for needs PSE, i miss exhaust noise too much in my car.
 
Thats what im leaning towards. The problem is my turbo is at 99,000 miles ad theres a stigma in this country on cars over 100,000 for some historic reason. Obviously whichever i go for needs PSE, i miss exhaust noise too much in my car.

Dumb people! A well maintained engine at 100k will be as good as the day it had 1000 miles on it, if maintained. People should be more worried about the suspension, the shocks will be shot, all the bushes throughout the car worn. The engine in the turbo if maintained will do another 100k, cars don't suddenly die at 100k and most of the time the engines have lost no power unless of course they are an Audi. ;)

Suspension is the issue at such miles!
When I got the M3 I replaced all the bushes, for factory OEM, what an improvement, says it all! :)
 
I'd be amazed if a 100k 996 is still on its original suspension anyway! I'd be wary of a high mile 996 due to suspension and interior wear, but a little TLC would keep the price decent. The two on pistonheads with >100k on them are priced in excess of £35.
 
I'd be amazed if a 100k 996 is still on its original suspension anyway! I'd be wary of a high mile 996 due to suspension and interior wear, but a little TLC would keep the price decent. The two on pistonheads with >100k on them are priced in excess of £35.


I think you'd be surprised, every part of the suspension will need replacing ideally, dampers, bushes etc. At which point its probably just best to fit decent coilovers and fresh o.e. bushes all round.
 
I think you'd be surprised, every part of the suspension will need replacing ideally, dampers, bushes etc. At which point its probably just best to fit decent coilovers and fresh o.e. bushes all round.

Agreed, my 996 suspension was awful, had Ohlins installed all round and setup like a GT2, so much better :D
 
Agreed, my 996 suspension was awful, had Ohlins installed all round and setup like a GT2, so much better :D

Same on M3 for me, just replacing all the bushes with o.e. transformed the car. Some bushes are shot after as little as 30k, good dampers only last 60k, some less so. As long as an engine is well maintained they tend to be least of issues, of course any known wear and tear items should be replaced for longevity.
 
Same on M3 for me, just replacing all the bushes with o.e. transformed the car. Some bushes are shot after as little as 30k, good dampers only last 60k, some less so. As long as an engine is well maintained they tend to be least of issues, of course any known wear and tear items should be replaced for longevity.

Had Center Gravity do the work and they also swapped some arms to the 997 variants which are much beefier but direct swap, the stock shocks had been used with lowering springs before I purchased it, they had smashed the bump stops to oblivion, the difference in ride quality after was night and day. When it comes to mods, tires, brakes and suspension are first on my list :)
 
Had Center Gravity do the work and they also swapped some arms to the 997 variants which are much beefier but direct swap, the stock shocks had been used with lowering springs before I purchased it, they had smashed the bump stops to oblivion, the difference in ride quality after was night and day. When it comes to mods, tires, brakes and suspension are first on my list :)

Chris is one very talented guy there. :)

I fitted coilovers to both the M3 and Mustang. I also went with the most hardcore coilovers for true track work with Clubsports yet both cars also improved in ride quality on the road. :)

Good quality coilovers are superb, even the full on track stuff damps better on road. :)
 
Chris is one very talented guy there. :)

I fitted coilovers to both the M3 and Mustang. I also went with the most hardcore coilovers for true track work with Clubsports yet both cars also improved in ride quality on the road. :)

Good quality coilovers are superb, even the full on track stuff damps better on road. :)

He does know his stuff (i took my previous C2 there), buts its coventry which is 3.5 hours each way and i dont have the time spare. I wish with the turbo there was a subsided m030 kit like there was on the C2 (i realise the turbo is sort M030 already).
 
Back
Top Bottom