Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

Chaps

My friend is looking at a 07 Cayman S on the weekend, it has Turbo wheels, PCM,PASM, Xenons and has done 74,000 miles

What shall i tell him to look out for :)

Cheers

IMS and Bores scoring. IMS unlikely!
Bores very likely, could be scored, get a specialist to inspect bores, if all clean buy for bargain price due to high miles.
 
R35 owners thread coming soon? :D

Another thing to add to my other message, make sure any car you look at has had all the Nissan TSBs done, bellhousing and steering lock are common problems on pre MY11 cars for example.
 
Cheers Andy

I will pass the above on

He might find the inspection reports some minor scoring, this is fine but to ensure it don't get worse use 5W-40 or 10W-50 oil, Porsche approve both grades. Also fit a low-temp stat.

Unfortunately the 3.4 and 3.8 engines will all suffer scoring at somepoint in their lives, design/cooling flaw of the engine design. The 3.6 and smaller engines are effected to a lesser extent.

IMS was a major issue on 05 and earlier cars, 06 built cars got a stronger IMS.
 
An example if one were needed, of why 911's captivate the best drivers and give so much pleasure. Old school Pork is getting massive amongst a couple of my mates at the moment and this sort of explains why I feel.


Nuff said.
 
not mine but my bosses old car and the replacement

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911 Turbo S :D

his daily was a Cayenne Turbo S and his new daily is a facelifted Cayenne Turbo. nothing but a Porker fanboi LOL
apparently also has a Gallardo but we dont get to see that at work :(
 
Absolutely, there are a few Porsche specialists near me, so I'd definitely pay one for an inspection if I end up getting one next year. Are 911s more susceptible to this than Caymans?

From being a member on several Porsche forums the engines worse effected are:-

3.4l found in Cayman pre 2009 - Supposedly 5% chance of IMS failure and engine at somepoint in its life will score the bores.
3.8l is second most effect - IMS issues seemed to be reduced on 06 and later built cars where they got a revised IMS, they still score the bores though.

2.7l and 3.6l are less effected but can still suffer from both the above.


In short Hartech are the ones who have rebuilt the most engines and also found ways to prevent it, so far not one single Hartech re-built engine has failed, yet some people with Porsche replacement engines have even had the replacement let go. Also Autofarm and LN engineering very well regarded and singing from same sheet as Hartech.

Hartech have suggested taking the following action can help reduce scoring vastly:-

1. Change oil every 6000 miles
2. Use thicker grade oil 5W-40 or 10W-50
3. Lower temperature thermostat.
4. Warm car up properly
5. The crazy one, try not to use engine torque i.e. don't floor it sub 2500rpm

Above helps vastly reduce scoring, oil changes maybe IMS too.

The bores score because cooling/flow is not enough across the engine and particular cylinder 6 can not get enough coolant flow resulting in things get to hot resulting in scoring, for a far better explanation check google or Hartech website for more details where it is far better explained.
 
I've had bore scoring with my Cayman. The easy test is to start a cold engine and give it some revs - if the bores are scored you will see blue/white smoke pouring out only one of the exhausts. If you see this, just walk away.

Mine was purchased from OPC and they accepted it back for a rebuild without any trouble (colchester OPC) - so couldnt fault the service. I went from 1L oil per 1k miles to not having to top up in 5k (so far).

Equally, I just got to experience Porsche assist for the first time today. I pulled away, went for second, felt a clunk, and got nothing. After that I could get third which worked fine, but couldn't use any other gear. I`m pretty sure its the linkage/gating thingy thats broken as there was no crunching horrible sound i'd have expected from the gearbox being damaged. Had RAC with me within 50minutes and dropped at work only 80 minutes late. Now got an E class hire car until I get mine back. All I know about the problem so far is that is warranty covered, hopefully get some more details tomorrow. Overall an excellent service so far!

It does worry me about running without warranty...etc in a few years time though.
 
The bore scoring issue does not effect the DFI engines I am lead to believe. However, my fathers 997 is using around 1L of oil every 2800 miles or so, which he is still not 100% happy with.
 
Odd, it should have settled a bit after 10k. Keep an eye on it, there will come a point where you can probably contest that it's excessive and get a new engine! In the US you'd be able to lemon that if it was a new car and get into a brand new one :D
 
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