Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

rexehuk said:
This is of course dependent on insurance being available for me on a 13 plate in 2014/15 as I'll still be under 28.
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I've said this about 50 times already but I got my car when I was 21, these are the details I used and the prices I paid;

May 2011 £1250 - 21 years old, 0NCB, £1400 excess, GU21 post code, 8000 miles, 49 year old women (Mum) and 28 year old women (GF) as named drivers.
May 2012 £625 - 22 years old, 1NCB, £900 excess, GU24 post code, 8000 miles, 29 year old women (GF) as named driver.

Car is a 2007 987 Boxster S (3.4L - 300bhp~). Never made any insurance claims, driving since I was 17, 0 points.

First year I was with Elephant, this year is an Admiral multicar policy (although Admiral were still the cheapest without multicar and came in at about £745.

Although my post code helps a lot I'm sure I was still able to insure my car at 21 with 0 no claims bonus for £1250.

To put things into perspective insurance should the least of your worries at your age and I have the following budgeted as a worst case senario for the cars 2 year anniversary in May;

Insurance - £750
Tax - £500
Service - £800
Tyres - £1200
Brakes - £1000
111 Point Check - £250
Years Warranty £1000

So over £5000. Mind you, apart from fuel, insurance and tax I've not had to spend a penny since I bought my car.

Funny enough I'm actually just gonna hang onto my car until I can get insured sensibly on a Ford Mustang.
 
Owned a 2003 996 C4 since April this year which replaced a 986 Boxster that I'd had for 4 years. Can't think of anything else I'd rather have for the money. Used as a daily driver for work (20 mile drive). Assuming nothing major goes wrong with it i'll be keeping it for a long while. Have changed the wheels to the thinner 5 spoke Carreras since the picture was taken.

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AndrewNR said:
I think my 10k would go on an E46 M3 - similar performace, better interior, more practical and probably cheaper to run.

Although you can't tell people you drive a 9-11.
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Id rate the E46 M3 as better too, 10k gets you a nice M3 and its a quicker car at everything.

10k gets you an old and ropey 911 with higher running cost.
 
PikeyPriest said:
Wow. It really shows how much driver skill makes a difference to lap times. He flys up on the back of GT3 cup cars despite them having the same BHP. I guess he didnt win the 2006 GT3 cup by being slow! (thanks wiki)
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Yes, drivers can make a huge difference and if you watch videos its always generally in the braking zones which seperates a quick driver, from a scary quick driver. :D
 
Gibbo said:
Yes, drivers can make a huge difference and if you watch videos its always generally in the braking zones which seperates a quick driver, from a scary quick driver. :D
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Hmm, im getting tempted to do a driver training day in the cayman now. How much punishment will the tyres/brakes take? I was thinking of Bedford for the safety factor and its not that far from me.
 
PikeyPriest said:
Hmm, im getting tempted to do a driver training day in the cayman now. How much punishment will the tyres/brakes take? I was thinking of Bedford for the safety factor and its not that far from me.
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Brakes, you determine that, just give brakes plenty of time to warm up and cool down, that will prevent any warping, other than that they should be fine, Porsche brakes are very good on track and handle it well.

Tyres will depend on the brand and how many big slides you do. I say destroy them and get some Michelin SuperSports, mine have done 7 trackdays and 10,000 road miles and still have 3-4mm tread left, epic tyre! The PS2's before them I did one trackday on and took nearly 3mm out of them on one trackday, so 2-3 days would be your max on PS2's in the dry, maybe 4 if your lucky. I'd say the SuperSports could easily do 8-10 trackdays, a great feat for any tyre.
 
Gibbo said:
Tyres will depend on the brand and how many big slides you do. I say destroy them and get some Michelin SuperSports, mine have done 7 trackdays and 10,000 road miles and still have 3-4mm tread left, epic tyre! The PS2's before them I did one trackday on and took nearly 3mm out of them on one trackday, so 2-3 days would be your max on PS2's in the dry, maybe 4 if your lucky. I'd say the SuperSports could easily do 8-10 trackdays, a great feat for any tyre.
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What's the latest thinking on PSS vs PS2, given their lack of an N Rating?

I'm currently running PS2s on a Boxster 987S in the following sizes
235/35/19 87Y
265/35/19 94Y

PSS are not N rated and available in my size, but with the wrong load rating:-
235/35/19 91Y
265/35/19 98Y

Should I be concerned that in fitting PSS they're A; not N rated, & B; the wrong load index?

I've no OPC warranty to influence the decision, just looking for the best tyre, which seems to be more complicated than I'd have hoped given that the PS2 is not exactly new, and Michelin/Porsche have yet to get their act together and produce an ideal replacement.

@Peerzy, you're running a 987S on 18's, with an OPC warranty. What size/load rating are your tyres?
 
Kingy said:
What's the latest thinking on PSS vs PS2, given their lack of an N Rating?

I'm currently running PS2s on a Boxster 987S in the following sizes
235/35/19 87Y
265/35/19 94Y

PSS are not N rated and available in my size, but with the wrong load rating:-
235/35/19 91Y
265/35/19 98Y

Should I be concerned that in fitting PSS they're A; not N rated, & B; the wrong load index?

I've no OPC warranty to influence the decision, just looking for the best tyre, which seems to be more complicated than I'd have hoped given that the PS2 is not exactly new, and Michelin/Porsche have yet to get their act together and produce an ideal replacement.

@Peerzy, you're running a 987S on 18's, with an OPC warranty. What size/load rating are your tyres?
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Higher load rating is better, typically means stiffer sidewall, which generally means better feedback and sharper initial turn-in.

You should get it done! Enjoy the improved handling characteristics and tyres which last generally twice as long as other brands. :)
 
Gibbo said:
Higher load rating is better, typically means stiffer sidewall, which generally means better feedback and sharper initial turn-in.

You should get it done! Enjoy the improved handling characteristics and tyres which last generally twice as long as other brands. :)
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What are the downsides? Harsher ride quality? If there were no downsides, surely it'd come with the highest possible load rating as standard?

There seems to be an even split between people who think N rating is gospel, and those who think it's bobbins.

Personally I can't understand how an N rated tyre could be different from a non N-rated version of the same tyre? I got to thinking that it might be down to load ratings and just a specification compliance thing, but then I'm already running outside of standard spec in having PASM & 19s... That's why I wondered what Peerzy's load ratings were on 18s?

Have you had both PS2s & PSS on your C2S?
 
Kingy said:
What are the downsides? Harsher ride quality? If there were no downsides, surely it'd come with the highest possible load rating as standard?

There seems to be an even split between people who think N rating is gospel, and those who think it's bobbins.

Personally I can't understand how an N rated tyre could be different from a non N-rated version of the same tyre? I got to thinking that it might be down to load ratings and just a specification compliance thing, but then I'm already running outside of standard spec in having PASM & 19s... That's why I wondered what Peerzy's load ratings were on 18s?

Have you had both PS2s & PSS on your C2S?
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Hi there

When 911's first came out, N-rating was important, not many cars had such wide rears with all that weight over them.

Now its not so common, some now believe N-rating is just a form of Porsche tax, some still believe they change the spec of the tyre slightly.

Fact is Michelin tested the PSS on Porsche, designed it with Porsche in mind and Porsche themselves fitted it to GT3's and used them at the Experience centre, so they clearly work fine.

On my 911 I've had Pirelli Pzero Rosso (Terrible), Michelin PS2 (very good, average in wet) and now the Michelin SuperSport which is better than the PS2 at everything, dry, wet, wear, road noise, comfort, it is just excellent! Next I am trying Pirelli Corsa System which is a track focused tyre and will then no doubt be back on SuperSports again.




I just had my geo re-checked and slightly adjusted on the 911:-

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Running the above, the drive and grip is sublime, no front-end lightness or lack of confidence, just grip and great confidence. :D
 
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