Porsche Owners Thread - If you own one or just like or hate them! :)

[TW]Fox · 5 Mar 2015 at 20:26

Yucca said:
M3 looks dated and doesn't look 'bling'

But now I'v realised that the 0-60 on these 2.7's is no faster than my friends Audi A5 3 litre or new cars such as BMW 4 series with 3 litre engines I feel a bit 'embarrassed'.

This seems a bit weird, why are you buying this car? For show or for substance?

Does it matter if the car is no 'faster' than 3 litre 4 Series? a 430d is hardly slow in the first place and straight-line performance isn't why you buy a Cayman - it's a precision instrument in ways the 4 Series driver can only dream of.

The 430d has a particularly outstanding gearbox hence it's rapid 0-60 times.

Yucca · 5 Mar 2015 at 20:40

Dr House said:
If it was my 45k I would be buying a really good 997.2 PDK with Sports chrono and PSE.

£35k to £45k will get a really good one
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../usedcars/keywords/pdk/make/porsche?logcode=p

[TW]Fox;27733202 said:
This seems a bit weird, why are you buying this car? For show or for substance?

Does it matter if the car is no 'faster' than 3 litre 4 Series? a 430d is hardly slow in the first place and straight-line performance isn't why you buy a Cayman - it's a precision instrument in ways the 4 Series driver can only dream of.

The 430d has a particularly outstanding gearbox hence it's rapid 0-60 times.

I am correct in saying that the new 911 model came out in 2012 right? What can't be had for anywhere near 40-45k? Im not keen on the old 911's as id be buying a dated model and when compared to the new Cayman looks wise I feel it does look like an old car. Inside and out.

Performance of the Cayman 3.2 is also similar so I feel Im getting more value for money.

Also id be concerned with warranty issue. Really can't afford the time to be having problems with my motor.

Yucca · 5 Mar 2015 at 20:42

[TW]Fox;27733202 said:
This seems a bit weird, why are you buying this car? For show or for substance?

Does it matter if the car is no 'faster' than 3 litre 4 Series? a 430d is hardly slow in the first place and straight-line performance isn't why you buy a Cayman - it's a precision instrument in ways the 4 Series driver can only dream of.

The 430d has a particularly outstanding gearbox hence it's rapid 0-60 times.

Fox - Honestly? I want a fast luxury car which I can show off in! So yes show is important to me. Call me vain but if I'm spending £45,000 of my hard earned money bragging rights and showing of most certainly do come into it!

Else id buy a new 2 litre motor giving me 60+ mpg.

Gibbo · 5 Mar 2015 at 22:18

Yucca said:
I am correct in saying that the new 911 model came out in 2012 right? What can't be had for anywhere near 40-45k? Im not keen on the old 911's as id be buying a dated model and when compared to the new Cayman looks wise I feel it does look like an old car. Inside and out.

Performance of the Cayman 3.2 is also similar so I feel Im getting more value for money.

Also id be concerned with warranty issue. Really can't afford the time to be having problems with my motor.

Dude are you for real? A 911 looks dated, absolute rubbish. All 911's are iconic and have not aged in last 50 years, only questionable one was 996 with yuck headlights.

Dr house is spot on buy a 997.2 C2S with a sporty spec, 45k would get you an incredible car for the money and the 997.2 is arguable a better drive than the newer larger 991 variation.

Also Boxster or Cayman 2.7 version although are huge fun and you have to absolutely thrash them which is part of the fun the lack of performance quickly can become an issue, if your doing Cayman for the money your spending either get a 987.2 Cayman S or wait another 12 months and see if the new generation Cayman drops into your budget as the 981 Cayman and Boxster are a huge step up from the previous gen. Essentially the previous gen was handicapped on purpose by Porsche so the 911 had a big edge, with the new 981 they allowed it to get far closer to the 911 if not on parr.

But I'm with Dr House, a 911 at 45k is the ultimate buy and in 5 years you can bet a decent 997.2 C2S with right spec won't depreciate much, infact most good ones are appreciating, whereas a Cayman will keep dropping.

Yucca · 5 Mar 2015 at 22:26

Gibbo - Thank you for your advice

The issue is not that the Cayman S can not be had for the 45k budget, I just can't find one with the spec and the colours. Especially as I don't like black inside.

What do you think of the 2.7 Blue/Beige Cayman iv linked too which I can pick up for £45k?

Obviously its all personal preference on looks but to me the 911's honestly do look dated in comparison to the new Cayman. Just being honest here.

Yucca · 5 Mar 2015 at 22:28

Would you pick the older 3.2 iv linked too with the black interior which Im not a high fan of over the practically new 2.7?

(Assuming I rule out the 911)

Gibbo · 5 Mar 2015 at 22:34

Yucca said:
Would you pick the older 3.2 iv linked too with the black interior which Im not a high fan of over the practically new 2.7?

(Assuming I rule out the 911)

Yes at 2k more it's a far superior car buy that, but not a 2.7!

nemtizz · 5 Mar 2015 at 22:55

Your GTS looks awesome, Andy. Please don't tell me you drive around at 10mph with the spoiler up though.

Dr House · 6 Mar 2015 at 06:04

Yucca said:
Would you pick the older 3.2 iv linked too with the black interior which Im not a high fan of over the practically new 2.7?

(Assuming I rule out the 911)

If you have your heart set on a Cayman then just keep looking and the right colour combo will come up. It may take some time but you will find one. I think you are mad to pick a cayman over a 911 but its your money. Maybe test drive them both and see what you think.

Also I have seen the new non S 991 (thats the new 911) going for £53k with a manual gearbox.

edit
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-9...504?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3a9b15e4e8

I think its this one, they have been trying to sell it for £53k for months.

Yucca · 6 Mar 2015 at 17:44

Dr House said:
If you have your heart set on a Cayman then just keep looking and the right colour combo will come up. It may take some time but you will find one. I think you are mad to pick a cayman over a 911 but its your money. Maybe test drive them both and see what you think.

Also I have seen the new non S 991 (thats the new 911) going for £53k with a manual gearbox.

edit
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-9...504?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3a9b15e4e8

I think its this one, they have been trying to sell it for £53k for months.

I like the cayman's as I think they are beautiful and modern, great looking inside, fast with sensible running costs. As I intend to use it daily and I do around 20k miles a year it will be cheaper to run than a 911. MPG, Servicing and insurance will be less. I also feel the Cayman is light and simple to handle which is good as my old man will drive it sometimes and he hates sports cars

Coupled with the fact that I'm after a huge spec there is no way id get a new 911 anywhere near my 45K budget.

The 2.7 blue Cayman iv found really does have the perfect spec and I LOVE the blue and beige interior. Just a shame its the standard Cayman not the S. Im concerned that after a few months il wish Id brought the S.

To be honest my brain is telling me get the 2.7 iv found as it seems a great buy and I love the spec and colours. Heart keeps telling me to buy S just for its 0-60 stats!

Gibbo · 6 Mar 2015 at 17:54

Yucca said:
I like the cayman's as I think they are beautiful and modern, great looking inside, fast with sensible running costs. As I intend to use it daily and I do around 20k miles a year it will be cheaper to run than a 911. MPG, Servicing and insurance will be less. I also feel the Cayman is light and simple to handle which is good as my old man will drive it sometimes and he hates sports cars

Coupled with the fact that I'm after a huge spec there is no way id get a new 911 anywhere near my 45K budget.

The 2.7 blue Cayman iv found really does have the perfect spec and I LOVE the blue and beige interior. Just a shame its the standard Cayman not the S. Im concerned that after a few months il wish Id brought the S.

To be honest my brain is telling me get the 2.7 iv found as it seems a great buy and I love the spec and colours. Heart keeps telling me to buy S just for its 0-60 stats!

Forget the 0-60, the actual 2.7l is fine 0-60 won't feel slow at all. The problem with the 2.7 is when you boot it at 50mph upto 100mph it was be considerably slower than the 3.4l S version. Also the S has a lot more torque so has far superior in-gear acceleration.

Never compromise on the engine, that should be the most important aspect of your purchase.

RSR · 6 Mar 2015 at 17:56

Dr House said:
I think you are mad to pick a cayman over a 911 but its your money.

I did

Yucca · 6 Mar 2015 at 18:21

Gibbo said:
Forget the 0-60, the actual 2.7l is fine 0-60 won't feel slow at all. The problem with the 2.7 is when you boot it at 50mph upto 100mph it was be considerably slower than the 3.4l S version. Also the S has a lot more torque so has far superior in-gear acceleration.

Never compromise on the engine, that should be the most important aspect of your purchase.

Yes the 0-60 felt amazing on my test drive and the sports exhaust sounded awesome.

Im happy to wait for a S with the right spec and colours but my fear is that its unlikely I will find one with the kind of spec and colours that this car has

Looking for the impossible I feel.

pioneer2000 · 6 Mar 2015 at 18:29

Gibbo said:
Forget the 0-60, the actual 2.7l is fine 0-60 won't feel slow at all. The problem with the 2.7 is when you boot it at 50mph upto 100mph it was be considerably slower than the 3.4l S version. Also the S has a lot more torque so has far superior in-gear acceleration.

Never compromise on the engine, that should be the most important aspect of your purchase.

Hmm, unless he's playing silly buggers on a public road though, he's not going to be "booting it from 50-100".

Fine if he's tracking it, but otherwise the 2.7 might be fine for him...

Housey · 6 Mar 2015 at 19:04

pioneer2000 said:
Hmm, unless he's playing silly buggers on a public road though, he's not going to be "booting it from 50-100".

Fine if he's tracking it, but otherwise the 2.7 might be fine for him...

Too right, madness on any road!

100mph should only be seen on the road under heavy braking and 50 outside schools!

Yucca · 6 Mar 2015 at 19:08

My fear is:

1) Il buy the 2.7 and love the spec, sound and colour but will one day wish id got the more powerful engine.

2) The 2.7 iv found will be sold and il be waiting around for a blue/beige Cayman S fully loaded which will never appear any time soon.

Beige seems to be very rare on the inside. As does huge specs.

Vince · 6 Mar 2015 at 19:25

Love the GTS Andy looks a very nice car indeed

As for the Boxster chat, get the S. I tied a load when I got my Boxster and the S is just better, I absolutely loved the thing it went like a little rocket and handled like it was on rails. Any Boxster is a great car but the S is what the Boxster is really all about.

Be prepared to shift a little on the specs just make sure you get some of the essential options like the sound package, manual box etc.

On another note my renewal on the 911 came through today. £341 fully comp, to put it in perspective with me and the mrs on a 2011 1.2 clio it is coming in at close to a grand with her having been driving for almost a year.

RSR · 6 Mar 2015 at 19:53

Vince said:
Love the GTS Andy looks a very nice car indeed

Thank you. I've been driving it all week and I am still grinning ear to ear when I drive the car.

Captain · 6 Mar 2015 at 19:55

I think the GTS is the best looking car Porsche have made. Very nice.

Gibbo · 6 Mar 2015 at 20:07

pioneer2000 said:
Hmm, unless he's playing silly buggers on a public road though, he's not going to be "booting it from 50-100".

Fine if he's tracking it, but otherwise the 2.7 might be fine for him...

I've done over 170mph on public roads, was perfectly safe and legal, it felt brilliant.

Point is 2.7l is slow, full stop, the 3.4s is hugely faster everywhere and very noticeable.

My point also is everyone breaks the speed limit, everyone and people in fast cars do it often if not daily if conditions allow.

Yucca said:
My fear is:

1) Il buy the 2.7 and love the spec, sound and colour but will one day wish id got the more powerful engine.

2) The 2.7 iv found will be sold and il be waiting around for a blue/beige Cayman S fully loaded which will never appear any time soon.

Beige seems to be very rare on the inside. As does huge specs.

1. I am not being an ass but you will want more power from first month, the 2.7 is a slow car, I mean come on 0-100mph is like 15s area, pretty much every hot hatch on the market is faster and the big power luxo barges are faster again. 40-80mph in a Cayman S is effortless in any gear, in the 2.7 you need to rag it and even then it is slower.

Avoid the 2.7 or even better still why don't you go and get extended test drives in both Caymans with different engines, Porsche are very accommodating, when I was buying my 911 I test drove several and dealerships were happy for you to try a couple of cars and most the time they just scan your license and hand you the keys.