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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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I realise nobody knows for sure, but anyone know what a realistic timescale could be for the new cards. If they're announced June will it still be some time before they're widely available.

Trying to decide whether to upgrade now, could probably wait a couple of months, but if its more like four then I think I'll just buy now.
 
humbug said:
BioShock Infinite is very CPU heavy, that shows a 10% performance increase.

Total War 2 is an added SLI profile, if you look here there is no performance increase with Dual GPU, not with the GTX 760 SLI (ROG Mars) or GTX 780TI SLI.

What about the Omega Driver? there was no touted performance increase that i remember, and yet there was some.



http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/graphics/display/geforce-gtx-780-ti-sli_4.html#sect1
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Bioshock a cpu limited game news to me. If it is then it's not nearly as limited as total war. First hand experience with total war and that driver even on a single card was a massive improvement.

As for the omega driver I could link all the press release slides if you like that's more flash but her is a quote from AMDs own release notes.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalystOmegaWINReleaseNotes.aspx

Year over Year Performance Optimizations versus AMD Catalyst™ 13.12 WHQL*
Up to 19% more performance since launch in some games on AMD Radeon R Series GPUs
Up to 29% more performance since launch in some games on various AMD APUs.


Going back to my original point both company's make overblown claims about there drivers, even if some people think AMD do no wrong and prase the ground they work on.

And before someone starts, yes I have nVidia cards now but I've had plenty of AMD/ati CPUs and GPUs in the past. I really hope the 390x is good the GPU space badly needs to be shaken up.
 
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Things is with all of these claims, (that you are correct and both sides make all the time) is that you only need for one person with some obscure set of components to see the magical xx% increase and then it is true, because they always say up to xx% increase.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Bioshock a cpu limited game news to me. If it is then it's not nearly as limited as total war. First hand experience with total war and that driver even on a single card was a massive improvement.

As for the omega driver I could link all the press release slides if you like that's more flash but her is a quote from AMDs own release notes.

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalystOmegaWINReleaseNotes.aspx

Year over Year Performance Optimizations versus AMD Catalyst™ 13.12 WHQL*
Up to 19% more performance since launch in some games on AMD Radeon R Series GPUs
Up to 29% more performance since launch in some games on various AMD APUs.


Going back to my original point both company's make overblown claims about there drivers, even if some people think AMD do no wrong and prase the ground they work on.

And before someone starts, yes I have nVidia cards now but I've had plenty of AMD/ati CPUs and GPUs in the past. I really hope the 390x is good the GPU space badly needs to be shaken up.
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Yeah we all, the whole word and his mother have personal experience that agrees with ourselves.

In my personal experience the Omega Driver gave me a 64% performance improvement in BioShock Infinite. Nvidia should have made that slide for me :D

Anand Tested it and resulted 10% but i suppose your experience is what? can you tell me without looking at Nvidia's slide????? :p

bru said:
Things is with all of these claims, (that you are correct and both sides make all the time) is that you only need for one person with some obscure set of components to see the magical xx% increase and then it is true, because they always say up to xx% increase.
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Yes but even with that; up to 64% on a single GPU is a very bold claim.

Your right of course, its all PR and they all do it, but Nvidia do it to such extremes you feel like they are taking you for a complete fool. its an insult them publishing that crap.
 
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They cover it with the upto bit but you'd expect to see a bit more gains with a headline figure like that.

One thing to bare in mind with those recent "performance" drivers especially nVidia and to a degree the AMD one that one aspect of them is working around DX11 inefficiencies - the average FPS might be only increased by single figure percentages but there will be parts of games where the performance has been boosted significantly where they've either over ridden DX11 functionality or provided driver level hard coded optimisations i.e. one driver though it only gave 8-9% increase in average FPS running around the siege of shanghai map on BF4 there were some areas where it boosted the minimum FPS by ~67%.
 
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Rroff said:
They cover it with the upto bit but you'd expect to see a bit more gains with a headline figure like that.

One thing to bare in mind with those recent "performance" drivers especially nVidia and to a degree the AMD one that one aspect of them is working around DX11 inefficiencies - the average FPS might be only increased by single figure percentages but there will be parts of games where the performance has been boosted significantly where they've either over ridden DX11 functionality or provided driver level hard coded optimisations i.e. one driver though it only gave 8-9% increase in average FPS running around the siege of shanghai map on BF4 there were some areas where it boosted the minimum FPS by ~67%.
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Min FPS on Shanghai must have been shocking for Nvidia?
 
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Min FPS on Shanghai must have been shocking for Nvidia?
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We already had a big discussion on it awhile back ;) on the first couple of drivers after the game release there were parts of Shanghai where the API bottleneck meant performance really took a beating - IIRC I was still over 60fps but it wasn't smooth - with the performance driver they sorted that right out.
 
Made me lol, sorry NVidia fan boys. :D

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Rroff said:
We already had a big discussion on it awhile back ;) on the first couple of drivers after the game release there were parts of Shanghai where the API bottleneck meant performance really took a beating - IIRC I was still over 60fps but it wasn't smooth - with the performance driver they sorted that right out.
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About 65 FPS Min on those usual Bottleneck parts, but has gone as low as 53 FPS.

i7 3770K, 780TI




Not a criticism ^^^ :) that map can be brutal on DX11, and i know Nvidia have improved their DX11 overheads since then, so have AMD as you said but to be completely honest i don't think as much as Nvidia.

60'ish FPS Min is what i get in DX11 now with my FX-9590
 
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Ahh just pulled up some old footage of that map - one thing I do miss from playing that game is flying the attack chopper on shanghai - by the time I stopped playing I could make that thing dance :D
 
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Ahh just pulled up some old footage of that map - one thing I do miss from playing that game is flying the attack chopper on shanghai - by the time I stopped playing I could make that thing dance :D
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Not that good with the Chopper, i can fly it fine but can't do any fancy stuff.

I like to keep my feet on the ground, i don't even use the Tank or LAV much.
I'm an infantry guy and reasonably good at that, occasionally i'm a sniper but not on open air maps, thats boring, if we get base raped on Locker or Metro i get the Bolt Action Rifle out, few pepole are as fast as me with accurate aim :D i'm actually too fast for the net code, i have to let it catch up or my round goes where i was in movement not where the crosshair was when i pull the trigger.
 
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