Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

slick rick · 22 Apr 2015 at 18:43

humbug said:
I would like to see AMD put more effort into a reference blower cooler, they are necessary for Cross-Fire.

Nvidia's is beautiful and a lot more effective, by comparison AMD is not only loud and ineffective but also unattractive, i think it commits the worst crime of all, it looks cheap, if your paying 300 - 400 - £500 (the price of a half decent 42" telly) it needs to look like hundreds of £ worth of gadget.

I think they can do better, i think they must do better.

Agreed 100%, the reference 290/x do look cheap.

I think they are moving in the right direction though as the 295x2 is so much better built than the 7990 was (I know its an AIO card but the quality of materials and finish are excellent) if they apply the same attention to detail on reference single GPU cards and they are relatively cool and quite it would be awesome.

humbug · 22 Apr 2015 at 18:44

Orangey said:
Def. drop the ghettoplastic look and make it look expensive even if it isn't

How much could it really cost to find a half-decent designer? They must get submissions too.

Plenty of AIB partners that could knock a much better one up for them, HIS?

Boomstick777 · 22 Apr 2015 at 18:52

savagesam117 said:
I can't afford to keep graphics cards laying around. Other than my back up 7850!

+1

I sell all my surplus stuff at upgrade time. Only spare card I have now is a passive R9 270 as a backup card.

Kaap must be loaded, or some kind of eccentric child who's parents buy him all the GPU's he wants

If I picture what Kaap looks like I must admit I do picture this guy..

Wilko_Dog · 22 Apr 2015 at 18:55

Boomstick777 said:
+1

I sell all my surplus stuff at upgrade time. Only spare card I have now is a passive R9 270 as a backup card.

Kaap must be loaded, or some kind of eccentric child who's parents buy him all the GPU's he wants

If I picture what Kaap looks like I must admit I do picture this guy..

haha that's brilliant ! I'm the same as well I'm borrowing a 780 atm and have a 270x spare which I intend to sell before the 390x comes out and it's worth nothing

nashathedog · 22 Apr 2015 at 21:04

humbug said:
Kaap, one of the reason Maxwell has the performance it has is because of thier high out of the box clocks, if your overclocking from 1200Mhz to 1400Mhz your gaining 16%

A 290X from 1000Mhz to 1150Mhz is 15%
A 290 from 947Mhz to 1150Mhz is 21%

The majority of people are on air and not getting 1150, I can't get 1090 without artifacting and needing to up the volts and without water the temps aren't good. I've asked other 290x owners (1 on here) and there getting the same sorts of numbers as me.

savagesam117 · 22 Apr 2015 at 21:17

nashathedog said:
The majority of people are on air and not getting 1150, I can't get 1090 without artifacting and needing to up the volts and without water the temps aren't good. I've asked other 290x owners (1 on here) and there getting the same sorts of numbers as me.

I can get to 1120 on heaven before i get artifacts and touching the voltage! on air that is

and the highest i've got is 1190 with voltage

rolypolyman · 22 Apr 2015 at 21:35

I'm hoping the 390X is 8Gb and as good or almost as the Titan X and not stupid money ie more than £500. I will sell my very trusty Msi 290 Gaming for whatever I can get, perhaps I should sell it now and use my brand new backup 7870Ghz sapphire dualX but then if the 390X is too expensive or a dud I'm gubbed. What to do?

IceShock · 22 Apr 2015 at 21:48

rolypolyman said:
I'm hoping the 390X is 8Gb

This, as memory requirements have gone up so much lately, I struggle with my cards now.

chroniclard · 22 Apr 2015 at 22:04

Think people are dreaming if they think it will be 500 quid.

Gerard · 22 Apr 2015 at 22:09

humbug said:
Plenty of AIB partners that could knock a much better one up for them, HIS?

It would have to be a blower cooler though, most of the aib coolers tend to focus on dual or triple fans that dump heat inside the case. Theres no denying that the 295x2 shroud obviously took its design cues from the 690\titan cooler. Probably the best looking shroud that amd has had in a while though its basically just a casing hiding 2 gpu blocks.

Said it many times its an area that amd need to concentrate on, their reference cooler almost always feel like an afterthought just slapped on hoping it'll do the job noise be damned. They need to nail performance, power, thermals and noise, not an easy task by any means as concentrating on any 1 of those basically means neglecting the others to an extent.

Lokken86 · 22 Apr 2015 at 22:36

Got my bitcoin profits waiting to buy a 390x + new monitor. Nice freebies if I do say so myself.

nashathedog · 22 Apr 2015 at 22:58

savagesam117 said:
I can get to 1120 on heaven before i get artifacts and touching the voltage! on air that is and the highest i've got is 1190 with voltage

What's roughly the safe level limit with voltages on Afterburner please?

I tried it with 20mv and it artifacts if I go over 1100 on the core, It starts at 13mv. I haven't got a clue whether 20 is high or not so I didn't want to go further before asking, I can hit 1090 without volts but want to know how far I can go on air (estimate).

Tonester0011 · 22 Apr 2015 at 22:59

24/7? or just for benchmarking?

savagesam117 · 22 Apr 2015 at 23:13

nashathedog said:
What's roughly the safe level limit with voltages on Afterburner please?

I tried it with 20mv and it artifacts if I go over 1100 on the core, It starts at 13mv. I haven't got a clue whether 20 is high or not so I didn't want to go further before asking, I can hit 1090 without volts but want to know how far I can go on air (estimate).

I don't know. I only touch mine when i do benchmarks and it goes up to +200 if needed. I usually have it sitting at 1080/1350 without touching the voltage.

Doco · 22 Apr 2015 at 23:46

Gerard said:
It would have to be a blower cooler though, most of the aib coolers tend to focus on dual or triple fans that dump heat inside the case. Theres no denying that the 295x2 shroud obviously took its design cues from the 690\titan cooler. Probably the best looking shroud that amd has had in a while though its basically just a casing hiding 2 gpu blocks.

Said it many times its an area that amd need to concentrate on, their reference cooler almost always feel like an afterthought just slapped on hoping it'll do the job noise be damned. They need to nail performance, power, thermals and noise, not an easy task by any means as concentrating on any 1 of those basically means neglecting the others to an extent.

HIS have a blower style cooler - IceQ Turo (have the 7950....well had* two of them) - The cooler is pretty beastly - but takes up alota space - they pretty much take up 3 pci slots (2 1/2 - makes the 3rd on useless lol) so have to e careful if you are going crossfire and have anything else fin the PCI slots

Also the blower is somewhat heavy - and while I'm sure I'm in the minority I had the cooler actually start to remove itself from the pcb of the card.

humbug · 22 Apr 2015 at 23:49

nashathedog said:
The majority of people are on air and not getting 1150, I can't get 1090 without artifacting and needing to up the volts and without water the temps aren't good. I've asked other 290x owners (1 on here) and there getting the same sorts of numbers as me.

Erm? which other owners did you ask? 1150 is about the average on AIB air, i can run 1175 24/7, 1225 for benching when i feel brave.

nashathedog said:
What's roughly the safe level limit with voltages on Afterburner please?

I tried it with 20mv and it artifacts if I go over 1100 on the core, It starts at 13mv. I haven't got a clue whether 20 is high or not so I didn't want to go further before asking, I can hit 1090 without volts but want to know how far I can go on air (estimate).

What card is that?

The maximum Safe votls are 1.4v, you can get that in Sapphire Trixx, MSI AB will let you go to 1.3v, thats still 100mv above stock.

Orangey · 23 Apr 2015 at 00:18

Are you all forgetting the mustard cooler with blue PCB?

Gerard · 23 Apr 2015 at 00:25

Doco said:
HIS have a blower style cooler - IceQ Turo (have the 7950....well had* two of them) - The cooler is pretty beastly - but takes up alota space - they pretty much take up 3 pci slots (2 1/2 - makes the 3rd on useless lol) so have to e careful if you are going crossfire and have anything else fin the PCI slots

Also the blower is somewhat heavy - and while I'm sure I'm in the minority I had the cooler actually start to remove itself from the pcb of the card.

Thats another issue the size, titan z was 3 slots wide and still had to reduce clocks to be thermally manageable. For all we know the aio and modified 295x2 shroud was true for the 390x, or possibly they're going with a new heatsink, hopefully not one that screams like the 290x. Hard to say anything really as almost bugger all besides the new memory interface have really been mentioned, and even thats just "word on the street".

Orangey · 25 Apr 2015 at 16:21

Anyone remember this?

http://semiaccurate.com/2013/05/20/...-red-flags-for-the-company/amd_roadmap_tiran/

I don't!

Mal X · 25 Apr 2015 at 17:03

Gerard said:
Thats another issue the size, titan z was 3 slots wide and still had to reduce clocks to be thermally manageable. For all we know the aio and modified 295x2 shroud was true for the 390x, or possibly they're going with a new heatsink, hopefully not one that screams like the 290x. Hard to say anything really as almost bugger all besides the new memory interface have really been mentioned, and even thats just "word on the street".

you cant guess m8, the only thing for certain is the 390X wont be cheap............ you can blame TX for that.

TX is popular yet it's really expensive :eek:

, so this tells AMD it's ok to raise their prices too, it'll be about £600 to £650.

unfortunately, it's clearly obvious due to the success of TX that the market is there for expensive cards.....but only if it's a real monster...............you'll only get a cheap 390X if it's krap