Just a heads up mate, Nvidia do sell other cards that don't cost £1000
Show me an nvidia card that can beat the £530 295x2? It doesn't exist and for that price its a bargain considering its still top dog in the performance stakes dual gpu or not.
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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)
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Show me an nvidia card that can beat the £530 295x2? It doesn't exist and for that price its a bargain considering its still top dog in the performance stakes dual gpu or not.
Caporegime
Any real news on the 390X as yet? Something solid would be good.
Caporegime
At minimum fps where it really matters both the Titan X and 980 beat it in a lot of games actually.
If you're looking at max fps in games that scale well then the 295x2 looks better.
Average fps is where it matters, as minimum fps can be nothing more than a momentary glitch with loading in games or things that are not necessarily related to the gpu.
Caporegime
So it glitches in most tests then 
If that were the case we would see the same minimums on all cards.
Average makes no difference to me if it's a few fps slower. If minimums however dip 10fps lower that is quite noticeable.
If that were the case we would see the same minimums on all cards.
Average makes no difference to me if it's a few fps slower. If minimums however dip 10fps lower that is quite noticeable.
Yes if you play benchmarks, no if you play games. Smooth gaming with most frames rendered at close to avg speeds > stuttery gaming with high peaks and deep lows, even if the latter had nominally higher avgs.
Soldato
So it glitches in most tests then
If that were the case we would see the same minimums on all cards.
Average makes no difference to me if it's a few fps slower. If minimums however dip 10fps lower that is quite noticeable.
Hate to break it to you but i've seen plenty of reviews in the past that pointed to minimums as being nothing more than loading kicking in or streaming from hard drives. Its also deceiving as they can be nothing more than momentary and barely perceptible to the user yet graphs can make them appear as if they impacted the game far more than they actually did. On reviews and min fps, ive seen some show the 295x2 get low minimum fps and others not agreeing with that, yet as is usually the case on this forum people will pick and choose to suit their agenda.
Playing benchmarks , thats a cute concept.
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In this review the 295x2 minimums are higher than titan blacks average in every game test. Wish i had those minimums as my average lol.
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/04/08/amd-radeon-r9-295x2-review/7
Caporegime
The reviews were carried out on the same rig, if the minimums were caused by anything other than the card we would see it on all cards tested.
Fact is the minimums on the review I saw looked consistent and from my own testing having owned both the TX doesn't drop as low.
Alas this is off topic but when people have been waiting months for these 3 series cards I guess there's nothing else to talk about.
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And yet other reviews don't agree with your findings, yet some will. So who are you meant to believe exactly? Theres a ton of stuff that can affect card performance in the background otherwise basically all sites would come up with more or less the same numbers, yet trawling through the sites its obvious that isn't the case.
Caporegime
I'll believe my own testing then.
Who are you siding with? Let me guess the ones that show the card you own favorably.
Who are you siding with? Let me guess the ones that show the card you own favorably.
Soldato
Well one of you has the 295x2 and the other a TX, same resolution, settings and games... Get testing!
Albeit the rest of the system specs are different.. Kinda defeats the objective of it but hey! Give you guys something to do
Caporegime
Won't be long before humbug is here posting BF4 Mantle minimums as if that's how the cards perform in all titles.
Hate to take a massive dump on your little theory but i really couldn't give a flying **** what is in my pc be it amd or nvidia. Its for running games, last i checked i didn't sign up to be a cheerleader for whatever card happens to be in my machine, apparently some on here did though. I got the 295x2 because at the price it was offered for theres nothing that can beat it. Simple as that.
Caporegime
Well 2 seperate 290's are cheaper but I'll let that pass.
It was also the reason I bought it at the time till I realised some games the minimums were as good as one 290x.
What little theory? I didn't say you preferred one brand it's just you seem rather defensive about people questioning certain aspects of the 295x2's performance.
Soldato
Just a heads up mate, Nvidia do sell other cards that don't cost £1000
The 980 is out of my price range, and the 970 has the ram issue which will bite me in the backside at a later date.
As i said, you can trawl the internet and probably find any manner of reviews that will fit a certain criteria such as a card showing low minimums when lots of other reviews disagree with those findings.
A pair of 290's might be marginally cheaper but at the same time you're either gonna have to put up with a stock cooler, or have to put up with fans on the card that dump the heat directly into the case. Overall the 295x2 is a far better proposition.
Caporegime
So will you see the 390x as a flop then if it doesn't beat the 295x2 on average fps?
Because it's surely going to be more expensive than you can get a 295x2 for on release.
Because it's surely going to be more expensive than you can get a 295x2 for on release.
I wouldn't expect it to beat the 295 on average fps, if a thousand pound card can't then i very much doubt the amd equivalent will be able to either. 295 will be the fastest card until the 395x2 or nvidia release a dual 980 variant.
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