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Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

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“We do internal development with partners, we then take that development to open standards bodies and we open it up to the world,” he said. “This is how Nvidia got GDDR3 and how they got GDDR5. This is what AMD does. We truly believe building islands is not as good as building continents.”
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Lol, this guy is a hero :-D
 
Well, Nvidia will be using HBM in the end, even said as much, this after AMD put the work in.

Same with GDDR5, AMD worked it, Nvidia got to use it.
 
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Its speculation, and probably the worst prediction yet.

HBM can be 8GB, 4GB is not enough for 4K, why would AMD handicap themselves like this when they don't need to.

$850, well they may try but unless its about 20% faster that a Titan-X it will soon come down to its right price so they can actually sell them.
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HA

4GB £699 incoming

humbug said:
Well, Nvidia will be using HBM in the end, even said as much, this after AMD put the work in.

Same with GDDR5, AMD worked it, Nvidia got to use it.
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I think they already are they are just milking it like usual.
 
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Well, Nvidia will be using HBM in the end, even said as much, this after AMD put the work in.

Same with GDDR5, AMD worked it, Nvidia get to use it.
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AMD do the work, Nvidia polish it, market it better and get the sales.. It is what it is.

Industry is brutal, Nvidia's business ethics equally so.

I hope AMD bring these out soon and competitive, reading that article it talks a bit about 4GB being a lot of memory etc. I'm worried that these 3XX cards might only have 4GB HBM, making them largely pointless as we use more than that at 1080P already.

It needs to be 8GB AMD ! Make it so ! :D Come on give me a reason to come back to AMD..
 
indeed boomstick

I can see why people hate on nvidia but it's just business :)


However given AMD's tendency to point the shotgun at their legs. something could easily be missed.
 
Eurogamer confirmed 4GB max on first GPU's

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-amd-reveals-hbm-future-of-graphics-ram-tech

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but the slightly less welcome news is that memory capacity won't improve over AMD's existing flagships. Joe Macri played this down during the conference call, but in a world where modern games are hitting the 4GB threshold at 1440p, this is a concern, particularly as it's widely rumoured that Nvidia's forthcoming GTX 980 Ti ships with 6GB of GDDR5.
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Boomstick777 said:
AMD do the work, Nvidia polish it, market it better and get the sales.. It is what it is.

Industry is brutal, Nvidia's business ethics equally so.

I hope AMD bring these out soon and competitive, reading that article it talks a bit about 4GB being a lot of memory etc. I'm worried that these 3XX cards might only have 4GB HBM, making them largely pointless as we use more than that at 1080P already.

It needs to be 8GB AMD ! Make it so ! :D Come on give me a reason to come back to AMD..
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This is why IMO AMD are a little too soft, the good guy never wins, i'm not saying AMD are the hero of anything but had AMD not put the work in to improve GPU Buffer technology where would we be?

Where would Nvidia be if AMD had kept it for themselves, all those years ago Nvidia would have been stuck with DDR buffers and probably gone under not log after.

Now its AMD who look like they could sink.
 
Iv'e got a feeling the first batch of AMD 390x cards will be 4GB cards or possibly will they release 390 cards first with 4gb and a month or two down the line launch 390x with 8gb?

But ive always felt they will release 4gb first then show up with 8gb variants.

Sell the cards at a early adopter price and if they don't sell tht well as they hoped drop the price of the 4gb cards and replace them with 8gb cards for same or slightly higher price.
 
Am I missing something here... a flagship and most likely very expensive card with 4GB RAM when many games are already pushing this? Does HBM do something magical, or does this have FAIL written all over it?
 
If the 390X does indeed only come with 4GB and not the rumoured 8GB then I'll have to get either a 980 Ti or TX depending on performance/price at the time.
 
If 4Gb, looks like they've completely bottled out of the UHD "4K" race it seems. Still going to be good for 1920x1080 and 2560x1440 though, which is the majority of gamers.
 
Boomstick777 said:
AMD do the work, Nvidia polish it, market it better and get the sales.. It is what it is.

Industry is brutal, Nvidia's business ethics equally so.

I hope AMD bring these out soon and competitive, reading that article it talks a bit about 4GB being a lot of memory etc. I'm worried that these 3XX cards might only have 4GB HBM, making them largely pointless as we use more than that at 1080P already.

It needs to be 8GB AMD ! Make it so ! :D Come on give me a reason to come back to AMD..
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In regards to HBM, Nvidia put plenty of research resources and money into stacked memory with HMC before they decided HBM was better. Furthermore, HBM is not an AMD invention, it was designed by a industry collaboration that included AMD amongst other partners such as Hynix. stacked memory has been researched and prototyped for a long time and HBM itself post-dates HMC.

I don't see how that makes Nvidia evil or unethical. Nvidia knew of the advantages of stacked memory, supported one of the industry standards, and then for unknown reasons switched to a different industry standard.

I assume if AMD really believe they did all the work then for every HBM chip Nvidia will buy AMD will get a cut of profits so AMD have really nothing to complain about. Moreover, if it i really their product then they could choose who to license the technology to.


Lastly, no one if forcing AMD to use HBM for this gen. If the technology wasn't ready and that has lead to the colossal AMD delays then they only have themselves to blame.
 
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