Possible Radeon 390X / 390 and 380X Spec / Benchmark (do not hotlink images!!!!!!)

FoxEye · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:14

LoadsaMoney said:
Rebrands of 200 series to be more expensive!

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-pricing-leaked-expensive-200-series/

LMFAO!

See this is the thing.

All the rumours are bad - I mean bad for us. AMD aren't dismissing any of the rumours, so they could all be true.

This one would make sense given their efforts to remove old stock from the channel.

All these cards bar Fiji could be re-brands, they could all be totally underwhelming, and to cap it off performance/£ could go *down* this generation.

And I wouldn't credit AMD with the sense not to do all of the above. As much as I'd like AMD to hit one out of the park, it's hard to be at all optimistic when all the news is always bad.

JediFragger · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:15

AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

Gregster · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:21

stulid said:
Nearly 200 pages of arguing, trolling, FUD and Guff.

Impressive work.

Thanks

humbug · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:27

LoadsaMoney said:
Rebrands of 200 series to be more expensive!

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-300-series-pricing-leaked-expensive-200-series/

LMFAO!

Someone give wccftech a good kicking, clearly they are not thinking or they are ignoring the obvious for click bait.

Nutella33 · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:29

FoxEye said:
See this is the thing.

All the rumours are bad - I mean bad for us. AMD aren't dismissing any of the rumours, so they could all be true.

This one would make sense given their efforts to remove old stock from the channel.

All these cards bar Fiji could be re-brands, they could all be totally underwhelming, and to cap it off performance/£ could go *down* this generation.

And I wouldn't credit AMD with the sense not to do all of the above. As much as I'd like AMD to hit one out of the park, it's hard to be at all optimistic when all the news is always bad.

I think you are reading it wrong (and wccf is also wrong, the 290X was released at $550). We are getting a new GCN version with much improved tessellation (AMD's traditional weakspot), A whole range that can use the new features such as freesync etc and a doubling of RAM on top of any SP unit increases and fabrication efficiencies that cant be quantified yet with presumably new coolers (another weakness of the last generation).

It's very much a refresh not a rebrand and that's without looking at the "Fury" Line. Its a interesting and competitive line up IMHO although I hope 8GB HBM comes out soon after release. But its hard to get worked up about that when we dont know what 4GB can do yet.

easyrider · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:30

Only 2 weeks to go

MrMD · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:36

An 8gb 390x refresh card for around £300-350 could end up being a real winner for AMD i think.This is the upper price point most are willing to spend,and definatly would have a lot of performance

humbug · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:38

Nutella33 said:
I think you are reading it wrong (and wccf is also wrong, the 290X was released at $550). We are getting a new GCN version with much improved tessellation (AMD's traditional weakspot), A whole range that can use the new features such as freesync etc and a doubling of RAM on top of any SP unit increases and fabrication efficiencies that cant be quantified yet with presumably new coolers (another weakness of the last generation).

It's very much a refresh not a rebrand and that's without looking at the "Fury" Line. Its a interesting and competitive line up IMHO although I hope 8GB HBM comes out soon after release. But its hard to get worked up about that when we dont know what 4GB can do yet.

If the 390X has the same number of Shaders and the same 512Bit Bus people will call it a rebrand because thier grasp dosent go beyond putting 2 and 2 together.

Never mind that it will be a completely reworked architecture... its a rebrand because it shares those two numbers in common.

This comes from Apparently intelligent <lol... reviewers.

Orangey · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:40

We really need to get the message out that they're not rebrands.

JediFragger · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:41

Forget 12GB, 4GB makes me hard :cool:

JediFragger · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:42

Orangey said:
We really need to get the message out that they're not rebrands.

THEY'RE RE-BRANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Davedree · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:44

Gregster said:
I took the mickey when Roy posted a tweet saying look at how good the APU was against all the others... But it was the wrong way round and it was one of those "lower is better" ones and he didn't realise the APU had the biggest line

haa i remember that tweet.

Orangey · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:44

Nutella33 said:
presumably new coolers

Powercolor have their Devil13 ready ahead of time and MSI have their Gaming so that bodes well.

We can be like 98% sure that they will be available at launch.

darket · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:45

Orangey said:
We really need to get the message out that they're not rebrands.

THEY ARN'T REBRANDS

Just kinda reboots.

humbug · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:45

darket said:
THEY ARN'T REBRANDS

THEY ARN'T REBRANDS

FoxEye · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:46

Hmm, where did AMD say this they have "completely reworked" their existing architecture? Past articles have suggested the improvements could be limited to just what's in Tonga plus a bit of a clock bump... So a bit of memory compression, some power improvements, and... what, exactly?

Gregster · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:47

Bit cheeky selling rebrands with an AIO cooler to try and disguise the heat issues

darket · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:48

Gregster said:
Bit cheeky selling rebrands with an AIO cooler to try and disguise the heat issues

You're a very very bad man !

Davedree · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:48

Nexus18 said:
Just had a look at reviews for the 8GB 290x and apart from shadow of mordor @ 4k (and even then the difference is rather small), there is **** all difference in FPS in every other game at 4k with max settings

imo, when using a "single" gpu, 4GB is enough @ 4k as you are going to run out of pure GPU grunt long before the vram affects FPS/performance.

Now come to frame times/latency, it might be a different story although I can't see any reviews that look into this...

you wouldn't have bought an 8gb 290x to run on it's own, you would buy 2.

humbug · 3 Jun 2015 at 18:49

FoxEye said:
Hmm, where did AMD say this they have "completely reworked" their existing architecture? Past articles have suggested the improvements could be limited to just what's in Tonga plus a bit of a clock bump... So a bit of memory compression, some power improvements, and... what, exactly?

Tonga is a rework of Hawaii, a Tonga spec Hawaii will blow it out of the water.