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The last 2 of the NSX, never got round to uploading these!

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I assume so... same as this one:


Been in one of these a few times, interesting to be a passenger in to be honest. But i don't like the noise, obviously there is no noise so the road noise the "wooosh" sound. Rather hear an engine. Extremely heavy though! There's only I think its 11cm of clearance so when going over bumps you do need to keep the speed low.

Hmm I don't see why they need to decal it up like that unless it's just a marketing thing for a few cars. The technology is moving on well, range is increasing and weight appears to be getting lower as well (Tesla Model S Performance). Just hope it all stays on that path I guess. I like the idea of EVs, a single gear, silent running and supposed long distances per charge and then once at a destination just plugging it in.

Sill would need to have a petrol car with a manual gearbox though :p
 
Hmm I don't see why they need to decal it up like that unless it's just a marketing thing for a few cars. The technology is moving on well, range is increasing and weight appears to be getting lower as well (Tesla Model S Performance). Just hope it all stays on that path I guess. I like the idea of EVs, a single gear, silent running and supposed long distances per charge and then once at a destination just plugging it in.

Sill would need to have a petrol car with a manual gearbox though :p

It was only ever a car on a 12month trial lease/data capture exercise to the BMW 'Electronauts' continuing on from the MINI-E trials so its exactly that; marketing. Part of the R&D running up to a consumer EV product launch.... the i3.

EV's will be better when they start getting 3 gears.
 
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Hmm I don't see why they need to decal it up like that unless it's just a marketing thing for a few cars. The technology is moving on well, range is increasing and weight appears to be getting lower as well (Tesla Model S Performance). Just hope it all stays on that path I guess. I like the idea of EVs, a single gear, silent running and supposed long distances per charge and then once at a destination just plugging it in.

Sill would need to have a petrol car with a manual gearbox though :p

I believe it is a marketing thing, I've seen them trundling up and down the M4 with Cisco stickering on too.
 
I believe it is a marketing thing, I've seen them trundling up and down the M4 with Cisco stickering on too.
Yeah, spot on. its marketing. Look how we can get from one office to the other in an electric car - possibly even a 2 way journey depending how much you trash it!
 
Is the NSX really that good? :p

I guess it's a whole lot easier to talk about if you've driven one because everything makes far better sense as to how and why it feels the way it does inside and on the road because people automatically see the name Honda and have instant expectations as to how it must be, I thought the same but those thoughts were laid to rest quite quickly. I'll try my best!

In the flesh
I've only ever seen a gen 1 NSX once in my life and that was in an ASDA car park of all places and it was driven by a woman doing her shopping. I was driving looking for a parking space myself so didn't get the full view of exactly how small the car is in height so when I stood next to the red one above it was surreal. The roofline was up to my chest and I'm pretty sure if I gave it a chest bump that I'd be rubbing my nipples on it.

The doors are heavy and open and close with a similar feel you'd expect from something German from the late 90s to early 2000s.

The cabin is padded in leather and soft materials. the dash itself isn't leather but is stitched in faux leather that is still very convincing. There are no rattles when pressing things in and the buttons and switches are all angled in a way that when you reach over to touch them your fingers naturally fall into their place. I'm told the faux dash is because of the heat stresses it would otherwise have on normal leather.

This one was a pre-facelift and had the 3 litre engine and manual gearbox. The groomsman who owns it is a tall bloke but because of the way the seating is laid out he managed to sit in there with mere cm to spare and had the NSX-R steering wheel fitted which folded up to allow him to get his knees through. It had cruise control, climate control, a CD player, electric mirrors and windows. It looked really quite cool but sadly I have no interior pics as it was too dark and I had no tripod or lighting kit with me as I forgot them in the excitement.

Everything is nicely driver focused, the gearbox being on the right was no problem for me at all, previous nights I'd already driven the new Focus ST so quickly got used to changing gears with my right hand :p

When you sit inside you realise just how low to the ground you are and the first thing you notice is how much of the road you can see in front and around you. I read about this in magazines before where the designer wanted a panoramic style view and used an F16 fighter jet as inspiration, the A pillar is quite thin and there are no real blind spots to worry about either side.


On the road
You can't start the car up without holding in the clutch, bit weird for a manual of this age I thought but there you go. When the engine turns over it's got a nice rumble to it. The car had the stock exhaust but it all sounded meaty. Not the boomy rumble of an IL6 nor the quieter rumble of a Jap V6 either, it sounded more raw and sporty.

There is no power steering or driver aids here, you're on your own and I was a bit concerned at first because the roads were still cold, it was around -2 degrees out and snow had fallen and the salt spreaders in Ontario were out in full force multiple nights in a row.

Thankfully the road surface was fine that night if a bit heavy on the salt side but grip levels were great all round.
The steering had brilliant feel to it, at speed the lack of power assistance was a non issue, the feedback from the tyres and road was exactly what you would want to know what's happening. At lower speeds and when parking you do have to muscle around a bit which is expected, a good workout for those who have one as a daily driver I'm sure.

It's not a powerful car by any means producing 270 BHP (290 from 1997 models) and 200 something lb/ft but the way that power is delivered was a new experience. Because you're so low to the ground and because it's a mid engined car with classic 40/60 balance you get that speed feeling from all the senses very often and combined with the sharp handling and that engine noise from inches behind you, it's an event that sticks around.

I think to sum it up I'd say it's an experience of the mechanically analogue kind. The kind everyone should have at least once in their lives if they enjoy cars. I said before that I doubt I'll drive a car that has that same feeling again where almost everything just comes together nicely and just makes sense and nothing electronic gets in the way.

I'd love to own one, a generation 1 especially but I checked the other day and only 7 were on sale and the 2 I liked the look of were in the £30k region. A facelifted model is £60k and even though the facelift brings more modern touches and a revised body (and with that comes more weight), the gen 1 that Senna helped develop would still be the one I'd want.
 
Awesome cars but An S2000 is 90% of the car at a much lower entry point. A guy on s2ki has both.
 
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90% is an insane claim to make. Is there something wrong with his car? What versions are both?

I'm going to have to test drive an s2k now to find out for myself because I don't buy that one single bit, that a front mounted 4 cylinder with less power, more weight, higher ride height and more electronics is 90% of an NSX.

If it was genuinely true wouldn't people be flocking toward s2000 ownership?
 
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Now that I've seen in person what the huge fuss about it was for all these years, yeah I guess :p
 
90% is an insane claim to make. Is there something wrong with his car? What versions are both?

I'm going to have to test drive an s2k now to find out for myself because I don't buy that one single bit, that a front mounted 4 cylinder with less power, more weight, higher ride height and more electronics is 90% of an NSX.

If it was genuinely true wouldn't people be flocking toward s2000 ownership?

Nah they are both Hondas. The NSX benefits from a big engine so more torque, not everyone likes revving an engine. The S2000 is 100kg lighter than an early NSX and only 40 hp down

Guy has a X plate NSX, Early S2000, Toyota GT86 and a Honda Legend with SH-AWD which he loves.
 
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I'd have to agree with the 90% statement. I've driven an NSX and they are awesome but an S2000 has nearly all of the drama of the NSX with less of the complexity.
They are cut from the same cloth really.

And mrk, S2000? Driver aids? You must be kidding. Beyond ABS and PAS it has nothing. And technically the S2000 is mid-engined as it's very far back from the front wheels.
 
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