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And this is why kids shouldn't be bought nice things, regardless of how rich the parents are...

I don't think it is that. It is the lack of driving proper cars for the majority of drivers instead of the nanny stuff we have now. The GR86 is very basic in its nannying and whilst easy to manipulate for someone who knows what to do it can be very unforgiving. Especially with 215 width tyres. My wife nearly lost it in winter going on a roundabout at less than 20mph. She has been driving for 10+ years and even over Europe but never driven a proper RWD car. I booked her on one of those skid pan days and now she thinks she is Michelle Mouton.
 
No pics unfortunately but saw a lovely Aston DB2 (I think!) on the way home from work. There's an Aston specialist near me so presume they were on a test drive as they did a u-turn on a roundabout at an odd location.
 
I don't think it is that. It is the lack of driving proper cars for the majority of drivers instead of the nanny stuff we have now. The GR86 is very basic in its nannying and whilst easy to manipulate for someone who knows what to do it can be very unforgiving. Especially with 215 width tyres. My wife nearly lost it in winter going on a roundabout at less than 20mph. She has been driving for 10+ years and even over Europe but never driven a proper RWD car. I booked her on one of those skid pan days and now she thinks she is Michelle Mouton.

The GT86 is the same, it will still allow quite a lot of sliding even with TC on. It will basically just stop it from spinning entirely.
 
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You have to be a special kind of stupid to buy your kid a tail happy RWD sports car as a first car, have them crash it, and then buy them another identical car, and have them crash it.
That is some top work. :p
 
This was in the car park outside Curry's today. Very nice!

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When I was in Berlin a couple of years ago, I stumbled across a car dealership that had 3 of these in the showroom. Knowing how rare and expensive a real one is I had to go nose and found all of them were replicas done to a high standard. To my untrained eyes I had assumed they were real and close inspection didn't change that, but the chap in the car dealer told me.
 
There's a plate I half fancy that would benefit from illegal spacing, not mad just losing the space in the middle... How much grief would you expect to get for that?
 
With the car or owner :D . There's no need for that, and all I can assume is the driver just doesn't give a flying ****. Imo bad parkers (not sure if that's a word) should get fined for incompetence/stupidity.
No contact the Nissan was owned by a Sainsburys staff member and the Toyota by an Argos staff member who looked about 18yrs old and was a lad . The store manager walked him out to the car to move it :p
 
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