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Cookeh said:
Personally, I'd rather have a DB2.

Or an SLR Maclaren.

Or a Diablo.

Better yet, a V12 Jag E-Type.

But meh, seems I'm not allowed an opinion :rolleyes:
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a DB2 ??

Don't be daft. Given the vast resources needed to afford and run a Ferrari 599, surely you'd be looking at the much prettier and much more modern DB6 ?

And A Diablo ? C'mon now seriously. The 599 is better than the diablo in just about every way. Remember that the majority of Diablos were made before VAG ownership. The interior on the early ones is absolutely shocking. Observe:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2332735.htm

Clearly, none of the cars you've listed are actually "better" cars. There are just ones you'd prefer because you've got some kind of issue with ferrari owners.
 
MrLOL said:
a DB2 ??

Don't be daft. Given the vast resources needed to afford and run a Ferrari 599, surely you'd be looking at the much prettier and much more modern DB6 ?

And A Diablo ? C'mon now seriously. The 599 is better than the diablo in just about every way. Remember that the majority of Diablos were made before VAG ownership. The interior on the early ones is absolutely shocking. Observe:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2332735.htm

Clearly, none of the cars you've listed are actually "better" cars. There are just ones you'd prefer because you've got some kind of issue with ferrari owners.
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Alternatively I've listed them because I would prefer to own them.

Which was the whole point of the post...
 
[TW]Fox;18862655 said:
You felt detached when you drove a Ferrari last?

Which Ferrari was it?
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Did I claim I drove a Ferrari?

I made the statement I would rather drive a car I feel a part of - rather than one that has pretty much everything altered or controlled by computers.

The exhaust note isn't even real for heavens sake.

I do apologise for having contrasting opinons to you all, forgive me and I'll try and follow you like a sheep in order to meet your standards... :rolleyes::p
 
Cookeh said:
Alternatively I've listed them because I would prefer to own them.

Which was the whole point of the post...
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No you didn't

You said a ferrari 599 was a crap choice because "there are so many better cars"

clearly they aren't. Just inferior cars you'd rather own because of your own silly issues.


Cookeh said:
Did I claim I drove a Ferrari?

I made the statement I would rather drive a car I feel a part of - rather than one that has pretty much everything altered or controlled by computers.
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and i suppose you know a 599 is boring to drive and uninvolving from personal experience do you ?
 
MrLOL said:
No you didn't

You said a ferrari 599 was a crap choice because "there are so many better cars"

clearly they aren't. Just inferior cars you'd rather own because of your own silly issues.

and i suppose you know a 599 is boring to drive and uninvolving from personal experience do you ?
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Nowhere did I say it was crap. If you're going to quote me at least get it right...

Again, moronic misquotes - where did I say it was boring? Where did I even imply it? Again, personal involvement - having never said I have driven these cars I would shocked if indeed I had personal experience, genius.

However, I have read several articles and reviews and have formed my opinions from them.

My own silly issues? I'm sorry for not wanting a 599 - please forgive me.

Do me - and the world a favour, get over yourself. You can have your opinon, I'll have mine. No need to try - and fail - to demolish mine because you don';t like it.

Frankly, that's just pathetic.
 
Cookeh said:
Did I claim I drove a Ferrari?
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You seemed to imply it - given your disdain for the lack of involvement in a typical Ferrari, a point not often made. Where did your opinion come from then?

I made the statement I would rather drive a car I feel a part of - rather than one that has pretty much everything altered or controlled by computers.
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Controlled by computers? It is abundantly clear you are discussing things you've got no real idea about - the whole 'controlled by computers' thing is completely overdone.

I do apologise for having contrasting opinons to you all, forgive me and I'll try and follow you like a sheep in order to meet your standards... :rolleyes::p
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Your comment was quite bizarre and wasn't just a simple opinion, was it?

You pulled up somebody elses opinion and then went hugely defensive over your own when everyone decided you were talking rubbish.

I notice you are 18, what 'controlled by computers' cars have you driven?

They dont count if they were on Gran Tourismo, btw.

No need to try - and fail - to demolish mine because you don';t like it.
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Ironically the whole reason for this little debate is because you appeared to do exactly that to somebody else who felt somebody with a 599 had 'won at life'.

I do love hypocrisy on the internet..
 
Laughing quite a bit at this, amazing how much you mature beyond the age of 18. We were all like Cookeh at that age, you included mike :p
 
Cookeh said:
However, I have read several articles and reviews and have formed my opinions from them.
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just lol.

That is all.

Back in the real world, any petrol head worth his salt would give up their left testicle to own a 599. The exhaust note, altered or not, is one that shivers down your spine and will live with you forever. This is the same engine thats in the Enzo incidentally, the car that represents the pinnacle of Naughties Ferrari engineering.

To kid yourself otherwise just makes you look a fool.
 
To top it all off, You can put the 599 into race mode yes? turning off all the "computer controlling your life" stuff.

I've a feeling if Cookeh was to actually try his choices and then the 599 he would be of a different mind.

If you think the SLR McLaren is completely devoid of driving aids you are mistaken also.

Braking system with Sensotronic Brake Control (SBC)
Electronic Stability Programme (ESP)
Anti-lock Brake System (ABS)
Acceleration Skid Control (ASR)
Brake Assist (BAS)
 
Fox, I did not intentionally, "pull up" someone's opinion to have a dig at it. I pulled it up to offer my contrasting opinion, which of course, because I'm 18 and not a regular here in Motors had to be demolished and me shamed. Right?

I'm 18, as you so rightly pointed out.

So how many cars do you think I've driven? 2? Maybe 3? You'd be right about the latter.

So tell me, how else am I supposed to form an opinion on cars, other than reading articles and reviews?

We all know how easy it is to go out and test drive every car, right? Even at your age I'm sure you'd struggle to get a test drive for some of the cars found in this thread.

So how have you formed your opinions? By doing exactly the same thing as me, so what makes you so right and me so wrong?

I genuinely would rather have the cars I stated before than a 599 - that's my opinion and my preference. It's not stupid or silly.

By all means, be my guest and buy a 599 if you have a spare £200k to spend on a car, I just know I wouldn't.

EDIT: ZG002, I know full well that the SLR is far from devoid of driving aids, it was just a car I would rather own at the £200k price point.
 
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Your arguments are all over the place Cookeh, You lash out at the 599 for having driver aids, Yet The SLR is in your list with driver aids. You just prefer the other cars.

In no way does that mean the guy able to spend £200k on a car has not won at life! Which was the original point.
 
Cookeh said:
EDIT: ZG002, I know full well that the SLR is far from devoid of driving aids, it was just a car I would rather own at the £200k price point.
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How do you know ?

I'd give my left testicle to be able to drive either for longer than a few hours, let alone own one.

Your argument comes across like the spotty 16 year old nerd saying he wouldnt "do" megal fox because "her stomach isn't flat enough" or some other stupid and pointless reason.
 
ZG002 said:
Your arguments are all over the place Cookeh, You lash out at the 599 for having driver aids, Yet The SLR is in your list with driver aids. You just prefer the other cars.
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Driving aids came after.

SLR was just a car I would rather own, when asked exactly that.

ZG002 said:
In no way does that mean the guy able to spend £200k on a car has not won at life! Which was the original point.
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I will happily admit that I could have phrased that much better, my original point was that in my opinion, and if I had "won at life" I wouldn't get a 599.

Make more sense now?

MrLOL said:
How do you know ?
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From reading articles and reviews... Bit slow this morning, or are you always lethargic? :confused:

MrLOL said:
I'd give my left testicle to be able to drive either for longer than a few hours, let alone own one.
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Who said I wouldn't. Even if there are cars I would rather own I would jump at the chance to drive it.
Doesn't mean, however, there aren't cars out there I would rather drop £200k on.

MrLOL said:
Your argument comes across like the spotty 16 year old nerd saying he wouldnt "do" megal fox because "her stomach isn't flat enough" or some other stupid and pointless reason.
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Eh? :confused:
 
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