Postman Prat Where’s Me Mail?

YoungBlood said:
Similar boat, 1st class recorded taking longer than ideal. You should have sent them special delivery, afaik thats the only guaranteed next day service.
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I know I've been kicking myself since. I thought 5 working days would have been enough though :( Looks like Im gonna have to refund her and lose out on the £50 :mad:
 
Jeff Lynne said:
Try quoting my response with that kind of reply because I can tell you whats happening now, he's telling you what happened years ago. Massive changes have been made since then you know!
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Jeff. Although I have sympathy for the honest, hard working postmen and women, my views are based on my experience, and some of the horror stories I hear from people who still work for RM.

I certainly have no sympathy for any of the union officials who seem to think that it is their god given right to shirk out of any work responsibilities as much as possible. The union to me seems to base itself on militancy and non-progressive tactics as much as possible. Christ, the union threatened strike action once at Watford as management imposed a smoking ban on the sorting office floor… 20 years after most other companies had banned it, and management only imposed it due to a plank of a postman tapping out his pipe on a sorting rack which set fire to a bag of mail!

The CWU need to wake up. They need to live in the real world where (not surprisingly) the business will expect a full days work. By no means is the CWU the worst – I have very strong views on the RMT and especially the odious and brain deficient Bob Crow (hateful man)
 
I dunno... ever since Postman pat was first shown to me all those years ago i find it hard not to run to the door like an over excited poodle when i see the van drive past.

Hazzah! for the postal service! :D
 
I just want my motherboard spacers to arrive....is that too much to ask? It's been over a week now. Don't make me walk to an electronics shop Royal Mail!!!!
 
Jeff Lynne said:
Try quoting my response with that kind of reply because I can tell you whats happening now, he's telling you what happened years ago. Massive changes have been made since then you know!
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I have worked for Royal Mail for 16 years and am currently a delivery office manager, and the words he spoke are very true, he hit the nail on the head and the comments you made are typical of a frontline postman who dosent want to work his actual hours, take a step back and realise that a strike in this climate will be a disaster for everyone. You will not gain anything whatsoever from strike action other than lost wages and a greater chance of compulsory redundancies.:rolleyes:
 
Jeff Lynne said:
Now onto present day and RM ....

It's more and more and more.

Whats important to remember is that it isn't a well paid job and many family men in the past have relied on the ability to pick up and hour or two's overtime a few times a week to boost their wages. ....

In real terms our wages have gone right down.
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I'm sorry but work in the real private sector, you will soon find that far worse than you complained about is happening to employees contrywide.

If anything the job Postman's was too easy to start off with (and with a good pension to top it off) and when the tax payer was footing the bill that was fine. Now that they are trying to run an actual business, the company must be slimmed down.

Try working in a a private sector company where results must happen in order for you to get paid. People in my office pull all-nighters, work for weeks not leaving before 11pm or into the next morning. They do not get paid a penny extra, and yet the do not strike. What gives you the right?

Certain things are expected of you as an employee, the expectations in your industry have changed.
You think you deserve more money? There have been people accross the city slashing their wages, yet doing the same workload, just to keep their jobs! There are salary freezes accross the City, so even though you are worth more to the business you don't get paid for it, which is essentially a cut in wages.

WE do not get to strike you seem to be striking every month. The attitude of we deserve this, we deserve that doesn't exist in my industry.

You get no sypathy from someone who busts a gut a work everyday. I'd rather the RM got you all to sign new employment contracts, specifically stating the expetctations of you, making it clear, and then sack anyone who refused to do their contractual workload.

In this economic market it is just ridiculous, and it infuriates me, that people in certain industries still are asking for more money, acting as if they are hard done by. If they took a second to appreciate the climate they would see, unemployment levels are high, graduate can't get jobs and people are taking pay cuts....and you guys think it's fine to strike. Open your eyes...no one sympathises.

I'm waiting for mail that was sent on Monday/Tuesday first class...all the things I bought are for an event tomorrow morning. They will be useless after that. Who do I get compensation from? I have been inconvenienced and am left out of pocket.
 
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I should have posted something last week but I forgot (I'm too busy to think straight),
but it doesn't matter now :)

I wish there was an easy alternative though, like for fragile items like nuclear containment vessels that ParcelFarce routinely crush or just toss in the hedge.

I guess like most jobs it's the management that makes it miserable, but I could think of worse things to do than run around the streets with a bag of post. Doing IT was insanely stressful most days.
 
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I dont seem to be having much issues at the home address, but at work things are taking up to 2 weeks! Really doing my head in now, lost a couple of potential orders due to customers not recieving their samples!!

Why cant the postmen be happy they have a job in the current climate? Why should they get more money, it isnt a job which requires skill, the wages they get for being a glorified paperboy is superb in my eyes!

Crack on and stop moaning royal mail staff!
 
rossyl said:
I'm sorry but work in the real private sector, you will soon find that far worse than you complained about is happening to employees contrywide.

If anything the job Postman's was too easy to start off with (and with a good pension to top it off) and when the tax payer was footing the bill that was fine. Now that they are trying to run an actual business, the company must be slimmed down.

Try working in a a private sector company where results must happen in order for you to get paid. People in my office pull all-nighters, work for weeks not leaving before 11pm or into the next morning. They do not get paid a penny extra, and yet the do not strike. What gives you the right?

Certain things are expected of you as an employee, the expectations in your industry have changed.
You think you deserve more money? There have been people accross the city slashing their wages, yet doing the same workload, just to keep their jobs! There are salary freezes accross the City, so even though you are worth more to the business you don't get paid for it, which is essentially a cut in wages.

WE do not get to strike you seem to be striking every month. The attitude of we deserve this, we deserve that doesn't exist in my industry.

You get no sypathy from someone who busts a gut a work everyday. I'd rather the RM got you all to sign new employment contracts, specifically stating the expetctations of you, making it clear, and then sack anyone who refused to do their contractual workload.

In this economic market it is just ridiculous, and it infuriates me, that people in certain industries still are asking for more money, acting as if they are hard done by. If they took a second to appreciate the climate they would see, unemployment levels are high, graduate can't get jobs and people are taking pay cuts....and you guys think it's fine to strike. Open your eyes...no one sympathises.

I'm waiting for mail that was sent on Monday/Tuesday first class...all the things I bought are for an event tomorrow morning. They will be useless after that. Who do I get compensation from? I have been inconvenienced and am left out of pocket.
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So because everyone else is treated like **** by their employers because of a flimsy operational model, it means the (profit-making) RM Group must squeeze their workers more? I already explained previously in this thread why the service is worsening, as someone who has been on both sides of the service.

While I don't agree with strikes per se, it seems definitive action in numbers is the only way to stop some businesses taking the mickey. On an individual level your bargaining power is **** all. Long-standing employees are the only ones with any real ability to confront their bosses about an issue without being summarily dismissed.
 
mr tommo said:
Im off to coldplay at wembley tomorrow. My friend dropped out because he forgot it was his sisters wedding so I sold my spare standing tickets for face value + postage on the bay. I took it to the post office 9am monday morning and sent it 1st class recorded delivery (1-2 working days).

I've tracked it online and it still hasn't arrived! Anyone know where I stand with this if it doesn't turn up to the winner on time?
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You'll have to refund the other person I'd guess. If you'd have spent the extra and sent it via special delivery you would've been able to claim compensation.
 
22B said:
I have worked for Royal Mail for 16 years and am currently a delivery office manager, and the words he spoke are very true, he hit the nail on the head and the comments you made are typical of a frontline postman who dosent want to work his actual hours, take a step back and realise that a strike in this climate will be a disaster for everyone. You will not gain anything whatsoever from strike action other than lost wages and a greater chance of compulsory redundancies.:rolleyes:
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You're just in it for the bonuses sunshine. I work my hours thank you, thats been seen to by all of the extra sorting, lapsing of deliveries and extra work I've had added to my walk through pegasus.

Sad thing is, in my office the people like you are that busy trying to save hours here there and everywhere that since my job was added to they've not provided me with the new pouch box that I need to cope with the extra work and they still haven't updated the A Plus meaning that me and two other colleagues are still taking our extra work out of a fourth delivery frame, which is ridiculous after almost three months of asking.

The fact is is that you people are happy to hack and slash at deliveries but do it in such a half assed manner that it gets our backs up. We were told that lapsing (or flexing) would be done on the traffic but we all know that the figures are innacurate.

If you people had the backbone to say NO to those above you who are forcing through these ridiculous cuts then we wouldn't have anywhere near this amount of trouble. Still, you're alright with your £9000 bonuses.
 
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rossyl said:
I'm sorry but work in the real private sector, you will soon find that far worse than you complained about is happening to employees contrywide.

If anything the job Postman's was too easy to start off with (and with a good pension to top it off) and when the tax payer was footing the bill that was fine. Now that they are trying to run an actual business, the company must be slimmed down.

Try working in a a private sector company where results must happen in order for you to get paid. People in my office pull all-nighters, work for weeks not leaving before 11pm or into the next morning. They do not get paid a penny extra, and yet the do not strike. What gives you the right?

Certain things are expected of you as an employee, the expectations in your industry have changed.
You think you deserve more money? There have been people accross the city slashing their wages, yet doing the same workload, just to keep their jobs! There are salary freezes accross the City, so even though you are worth more to the business you don't get paid for it, which is essentially a cut in wages.

WE do not get to strike you seem to be striking every month. The attitude of we deserve this, we deserve that doesn't exist in my industry.

You get no sypathy from someone who busts a gut a work everyday. I'd rather the RM got you all to sign new employment contracts, specifically stating the expetctations of you, making it clear, and then sack anyone who refused to do their contractual workload.

In this economic market it is just ridiculous, and it infuriates me, that people in certain industries still are asking for more money, acting as if they are hard done by. If they took a second to appreciate the climate they would see, unemployment levels are high, graduate can't get jobs and people are taking pay cuts....and you guys think it's fine to strike. Open your eyes...no one sympathises.

I'm waiting for mail that was sent on Monday/Tuesday first class...all the things I bought are for an event tomorrow morning. They will be useless after that. Who do I get compensation from? I have been inconvenienced and am left out of pocket.
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Nice essay, but this dispute isn't about pay rises.
 
Jeff Lynne said:
Nice essay, but this dispute isn't about pay rises.
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Really so when the CWU put this on their webiste they were lying?

Higher pay, shorter working week, better attendance patterns providing more quality time away from work, including weekends.
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More pay for less hours, sounds perfectly reasonable in times of recession...

I also liked this statement from the CWU:

Postal workers deserve to be rewarded for change.
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Why exactly do you deserver a reward for change?
 
RDM said:
Really so when the CWU put this on their webiste they were lying?



More pay for less hours, sounds perfectly reasonable in times of recession...
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I'll say it again: Royal Mail Group's operations in 2008 made a profit of circa £400 million, their own financial report available on www.royalmail.com says this. Cost-cutting simply puts more money in the pocket of middle management or board members. I don't recall anyone else offering to send a letter from here to the Scottish borders for 32 pence...and still managing make profit of £142,000 a day from letters and parcels alone.
 
Looking at the figures in sr4470's post and the recent news that Mandy couldn't find a buyer interested in Royal Mail it's my belief that the company should invest in itself and be good at what it's good at.

All these cuts are doing no good in the short term, other than lining the pockets of the managers and I begrudge them ladies' sexual organs gaining from my hard work.
 
Hmm... Seems you fall into the classic postal worker communist / militant role.

Jealous that a manager gets a bonus, feels hard done by because your workload has increased after years of posties having an easy life, want more money for less work...

Grow up - This is 2009.
 
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