But what's the definition of 'poverty' in that metric? If it's that you don't own a Ferrari then it's worthless in reality. If it's that you can't afford to pay for basic utilities and food then it's pretty damn important!
Poverty rate among working households in UK is highest ever
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But what's the definition of 'poverty' in that metric? If it's that you don't own a Ferrari then it's worthless in reality. If it's that you can't afford to pay for basic utilities and food then it's pretty damn important!
I understand that, which is why I've said the Guardian aren't using it right. It can be used as a measurement of how wealth is distributed, but that's it. It's not a good way of indicating rates of what most people consider to be "poverty".
That's how I was picking up on it. Surely in this instance what they should be saying is that the gap between rich and poor is widening, but that's not really news? It's also ironic for a highly left-leaning newspaper that generally appeals to a more wealthy, less working-class readership!
Yeah, it's definitely non news in my opinion.
:edit: Mea culpa; see my previous post.
It's more like 2.5 days. Full time minimum wage is about £300/ week after tax.
But that figure is after housing costs. So we're probably talking full time.
They literally say it's relative poverty in the second paragraph, and define it in the final paragraph.
Relative poverty reflects an ability to take part in society.
If you're too far below regular income, you are cut off from society. Remember it's Median we're using as the benchmark, not Mean.
I've not read it all, but I'd bet that iphones and big TVs are mentioned by posters in this thread as 'gotcha' points arguing about poverty. But it's impossible to take part in society without Internet and phone access. Many poorer households don't have broadband, so rely on phone data: we saw this with home schooling, where some families simply couldn't afford the data charges to allow their kids access.
Hmm, I want to say it must have even edited but I can see the edit time wasn't recent. I just went through it and did a find in chrome mobile (like I did first time) and it needed to be searched twice to register for some reason. Thanks for pointing it out! I'll go and edit my posts.
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When I last got hired through a disability agency, the employer decided to not let me stay on because I was too slow, despite them knowing that from the start.
No absences, never late, did everything they asked, no complaints while I was working, then get told I was too slow in the exit interview. They never offered me any reasonable adjustments or even checkout trained me.
A lot of employers use disabled people for free / cheap temporary labour then simply never take them back.
Fair point as it was a disability agency
Came across this new article after my post that sort of mirrors my experienceses, we have people turn up then just disappear after afew hours.
Agency is basically guaranteed work I've used them every time in gaps in employment after redundancy ect rather than benefits
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-57268852
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Well if this keeps on happening, employers can stop using agencies.
In terms of the article you linked, were such applicants aware that they had to wear hair and beard nets and any other such criteria before starting?
If not then its fully the agencies fault for simply handing any job to any applicant without them knowing anything about it.
they are 100 percent aware ,the agency send the assignment job description by text and email including if heavy lifting or repetitive work and ppe required given that and the fact you are been sent to a food production role only a complete tool would be surprised to wear a hair net
They are just lazy slackers who dont know what work is ,ok its not the dream role but it stops them falling on to benefits
This is not something i read in the guardian ect its real life on the job circuit in Cornwall if you require work over benifits its there .
If you can afford a house to rent or buy here is another question ,the up country invitation is leaving local buyers homeless (not my problem but a big problem here)
https://news.sky.com/story/housing-...y-adding-to-further-strain-on-locals-12291251
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwall-houses-selling-more-double-5442212
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Maybe they hate being rinsed by employment agencies?
What percentage do the agency take on average?
I wonder if "slackers" would be less slack for 3 or 4 quid an hour more?
I know it's unrelated.
Surely it's better to be on housing benefits in this case then? If you are not invested in property.
What percentage do the agency take on average?
I wonder if "slackers" would be less slack for 3 or 4 quid an hour more?
I know it's unrelated.
Surely it's better to be on housing benefits in this case then? If you are not invested in property.
off the top of my head the agancy get maybe 16 quid an hour , your right people would rather sponge off the state than earn 9 quid an hour ,i wouldnt
edit/ even as a stop gap its useful to be in any work when job hunting and this is guaranteed
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Thats another thing, min wage jobs requiring their staff to be the absolute best in the world.
Its also not necessarily a 'slacker / boredom' thing - my brother had never worked up to graduating from uni and getting his first job as a supermarket pharmacist.
In his first week he was caught on CCTV on a personal phonecall to his GF for over 2 hours. He was literally dumbstruck as to any wrong doing claiming that there weren't any customers at all during that time so therefore he could do that rather than just 'sitting there and twiddling his thumbs'.
Funny thing is after he was sacked, he ended up earning 4-5x as much as a locum Pharmacist instead.
Its also not necessarily a 'slacker / boredom' thing - my brother had never worked up to graduating from uni and getting his first job as a supermarket pharmacist.
In his first week he was caught on CCTV on a personal phonecall to his GF for over 2 hours. He was literally dumbstruck as to any wrong doing claiming that there weren't any customers at all during that time so therefore he could do that rather than just 'sitting there and twiddling his thumbs'.
Funny thing is after he was sacked, he ended up earning 4-5x as much as a locum Pharmacist instead.
Best in the world , they just have to function as a human being ,we get utter morons who have to be retold every process and others who just walk out saying its too hard or too boring ,and yes you would get fired for been on the phone that would be in the temporary contract you sign
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Oh I wasn't defending him, I wanted to punch him until he stopped moving over how much he was protesting no wrongdoing on his end.
As for the 'best in the world' thing, that's basically any min wage customer service job expecting all their staff to bend over backwards for any customer.
As for the 'best in the world' thing, that's basically any min wage customer service job expecting all their staff to bend over backwards for any customer.
I guess my overall point is when i was made unemployed (quite a few times) i chose any work over benefits a lot do visa versa ,then i changed tack to local situation i.e even in work some are struggling with sky rocketing housing costs reposts links
https://news.sky.com/story/housing-...y-adding-to-further-strain-on-locals-12291251
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwall-houses-selling-more-double-5442212
https://news.sky.com/story/housing-...y-adding-to-further-strain-on-locals-12291251
https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwall-houses-selling-more-double-5442212