Premier League Manager of the Season 2010/2011

Is this the week where people are just posting tables with some 'stat' or something that gears them to looking better? I don't think I got the memo..

If we win the CL as well it should be SAF - but I think it will go to Pulis regardless. :)
 
Accendo said:
It's between Pulis and Fergie for me, Nobody else comes close.
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Why Fergie.. Seems a rather bias. Not being funny, he's arguably the most successful manager of all time but he hasn't done anything different this season to what he does every season.

Dalglish has done a great job pulling 'pool around in such little time. Most of the current top 5 will be looking at them as a serious threat next season. Unfortunately, he's not been in the job long enough to warrant this. Next season perhaps.

Pulis done a great job and richly deserves MoY. I hope he completes this season with a win on Saturday.
 
I'd love to be able to say Dalglish because I think the job he has done to turn around a team which frankly every one said was on its knees, a broken destitute shadow of its former self , in half a season , into a vibrant, happy, effective team has been brilliant. The change in some of the players has been extraordinary and managing is not just about buying the right people or picking the right formation, its also about motivating and getting the most out of what you've got.

However, I cant in all honesty give MoY to any one who has only been manager for half of a season.

I cant give it to Fergie either because imo, the MoY should go to someone who has excelled beyond expectations for the season, done the unexpected or propelled their team into the unthinkable. For me, Fergie hasnt done that, he has merely done what you expect Utd to do.

So , I feel I must give it to Pulis. I think he has done a terrific job, with not only a limited budget, but also limited ability to attract players even if he had a budget. He has taken Stoke to a cup final (which I think they will win), and more importantly taken them into Europe (how many european teams will even know who Stoke are).
 
What would Fergie have to do then to see it warranted in the eyes of some of you?

He has taken a United team which last season was slated for relying on Rooney, and that this season has been slated for having no midfield, the worse team there has been etc.

It's now on the brink of winning the EPL for the fourth time in five years. It's in the final of the champions league for the fourth time in five years (I think that's correct).

Is the only way he would be 'valid' for it to win the treble again or something?

Purely curious, no bias intended and I would agree if Stoke win the Cup then by all means Pulis should get it.
 
Bucket said:
What would Fergie have to do then to see it warranted in the eyes of some of you?

He has taken a United team which last season was slated for relying on Rooney, and that this season has been slated for having no midfield, the worse team there has been etc.

It's now on the brink of winning the EPL for the fourth time in five years. It's in the final of the champions league for the fourth time in five years (I think that's correct).

Is the only way he would be 'valid' for it to win the treble again or something?
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Like others have said you kind of expect United to win the title every season so you cant give it to him every season, not that he cares one bit about a tin pot title like Manger of the Season but he's a victim of his own success there.

Lets be honest no team or manager has really stood out this season.

As for Dalglish again it's very easy to play free flowing football when there's no pressure on you, see how Maxi plays next season should Liverpool be fighting for honours..... I'd bet he'll go back to being utter *****
 
Admiral Huddy said:
Why Fergie.. Seems a rather bias. Not being funny, he's arguably the most successful manager of all time but he hasn't done anything different this season to what he does every season.
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'Bias' seems to be the wrong word in this case (and I don't just mean in the sense it should have an 'ed' on the end); I think Tom had it right with his 'victim of his own success' phrase.

'Adversity reveals genius and good fortune conceals it (sic)' as the old saying goes, so even though I have no doubt Fergie is easily the best manager in the Premier League at the moment he may lose out on this award simply because people presume the platform he's on propels him into success, although they may skip over that that platform was built steadily by him over many years and in terms of managerial prowess he easily edges out his 'competitors' this year.
 
As a United fan I would probably even say Dalglish as well to be honest. He's turned a crap Liverpool side back into a major inconvenience and a real threat for the title next season. Ferguson is just doing his job of making sure the best team in the world wins everything as expected.

The real verdict on Dalglish is obviously reserved for when he completes a full season (if he gets the job) but it would be unwise to write him off.
 
Bucket said:
What would Fergie have to do then to see it warranted in the eyes of some of you?

He has taken a United team which last season was slated for relying on Rooney, and that this season has been slated for having no midfield, the worse team there has been etc.

It's now on the brink of winning the EPL for the fourth time in five years. It's in the final of the champions league for the fourth time in five years (I think that's correct).

Is the only way he would be 'valid' for it to win the treble again or something?

Purely curious, no bias intended and I would agree if Stoke win the Cup then by all means Pulis should get it.
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To be honest, at this point, I am unsure if anything Fergie can do now warrants it. He has already done so much and so regularly that its almost like there is nothing special in him doing it anymore. He is like the Federer of football, or the Schumacher of football, or the Tyson of football, like them he achieves/d victory so often and regularly that its almost now more of an achievement and of note to not win something than it is to win it.

Winning it for the 4th time in 5 years is all very good and well, but its manager of the year, not manager of the last 5 years. He has won the league this year, but then I expected him to win the league this year (how could you not given that more often than not he wins the league), he might possibly do the euro double (though I personally think Barca will win) but again to me that wouldnt be as big a surprise as Stoke making it into Europe.

At this point, I'd give Fergie the MoY if he won the treble or quad in a season because that would be something more than I already expect of him, but at this stage my expectations of him is to win the league or the CL and personally I give my MoY vote to a manager who exceeds my expectations rather than meets them.
 
dannyjo22 said:
So he should, he had and spent 50 million. As I said Everton until very recently were clinging to you despite losing supposedly one of our best players, and not spending 50 million. We have also had far more injury worries.

I'm trying to find a league table for the day Daglish took over?

To be honest and the same goes for us, the lack of quality in the league this year has flattered both managers recovery in the league.
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Ok, so Moyes has done a good job too :/

You can't have it both ways (not you specifically), you can't first say the sqaud's crap, they rely on 2 players and Hodgson could do no better and when somebody comes in and does considerably better (without the 2 man team), you can't then say 'so he should'.

I'm not saying definitely that Dalglish should win it but he's done an excellent job. Maybe the fact you laughed at the fact he got the job and thought he'd be a disaster has clouded your opinion :p
platypus said:
Is voting done before/after the CL final?
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This is the Premier League manager of the season so it shouldn't matter.

There's 2 awards; one for the Premier League (which iinm Redknapp won last year) and the LMA one (which Hodgson won last year).
 
No however the 2 awards last year were won by different managers so maybe a little bit of thought goes into the voting criteria. I'm sure some managers won't know the difference between the 2 though.
 
Has to be Ferguson, he's come 1st. Nobody else has done anything especially good in the Premier League. Bit confused at the Pulis suggestion, Stoke haven't been that fantastic in the league have they?
 
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So I am being biased because I went for Fergie, just like some Liverpool fans are going for Dalglish after half a season in charge where quite frankly, they coudn't do any worse.

It's not as though I'm the only one going for Fergie, there are votes for him from supporters of other clubs in this thread, I'm simply giving my honest opinion and with the general consensus that this is the weakest United side for some time and to do what he's done with them this season I'd consider it valid.

Still between Pulis and Fergie for me.
 
It's Ferguson, there's nobody else. The only other person to even consider is Dalglish, but that's only because Liverpool were so poor before he came, the contrast is telling.
 
jakeke said:
Has to be Ferguson, he's come 1st. Nobody else has done anything especially good in the Premier League. Bit confused at the Pulis suggestion, Stoke haven't been that fantastic in the league have they?
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Agreed, after a season where the middle of the table has been so tight that just a few points from somebody in 15th would propel them up to 7th. That's been seen all season long. Their improvement on such a table is 12th and 11th to where they are now 8th. They could fall back as far as 12th again by those 4 sides below them winning only one game.

The FA Cup final was gotten by opponents much lesser than Stoke and a Bolton side that's ending the season very badly, 5/6 wins followed more recently by 2/8 wins. The Europa League spot was by a back door pass.

I'm not sure whether the 'English' bias is coming into play or not, but he certainly in my eyes doesn't merit the award.
 
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