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OcUK could definitely be cheaper on SSD's I ordered a 960 Pro 512GB £80 cheaper elsewhere.
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We give the EU 350 million a week, lets spend that on storage devices!
In 2013 I got a 480GB SSD from OCUK on offer for £149.99, nice to know the SSD manufacturer price gauging has managed to undo four years of technological progression xD
NB: It's worth noting that while SSD price fixing is new it's been going on in storage in general for a long time, a 1TB HDD today costs what a 500GB HDD cost in 2010!
I reckon there are too many companies for a price fixing conspiracy there is just too much on the demand side of supply and demand equation pushing prices up. Hopefully as new fabs and processes come on line the cost will start dropping again but that is not likely till end of this year at the earliest.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ssd-hdd-shortage-nand-market,news-54328.html
There are two major HDD manufacturers left, and a handful of SSD manufacturers (companies that sell other peoples SSD with their name on it aren't manufacturers).
3 HDD manufactures, I'm pretty sure Toshiba's 17% is significant and their drives tend to be a bit cheaper. But given Toshiba's problems it's a bit concerning.
Given that Toshiba is also the 2nd biggest suppler of NAND behind Samsung it's not going to be idea for the consumer if it get sold off to Sandisk as it would put them on the same level as Samsung. That would give the 2 company's around 75% of the market with 3 fighting over the last 25%.
Given that Toshiba is also the 2nd biggest suppler of NAND behind Samsung it's not going to be idea for the consumer if it get sold off to Sandisk as it would put them on the same level as Samsung. That would give the 2 company's around 75% of the market with 3 fighting over the last 25%.
It's nothing to do with price fixing, just look at supply and demand.
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Hahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha, oh man hat's a good one, As it's early I almost thought you were serious XD
If there is price fixing, you can bet they are more careful about it than they used to be. Remember this from the early-mid 2000s?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRAM_price_fixing
You need to learn about the NAND/DRAM industry and the current transition that is taking place, together with the exceptional demand for NAND.
Haha, you're actually serious? I think you need to read up on the history of the SSD/HDD market. HDD prices are currently higher per GB than they were in 2011, SSD prices are higher per GB than they were in 2013, this has nothing to do with transitions/etc, it's simply due to price fixing and manufacturers keeping prices artificially high.
Supply and demand should necessitate a drop over time but that hasn't been the case, we saw price rises after a disruption to the supply chain but even after supply returned to normal and demand fell the prices remained high. This was also true of RAM (which has tripled in price over the same timescale).
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They will still sell millions of OEM units.
just seen this SSD meant to be on offer, but its cheaper else where without an offer? ..... :/
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £98.69
(includes shipping: £8.70)
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Samsung 250GB 850 EVO SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 32 Layer 3D V-NAND Solid State Drive (MZ-75E250B/EU)= £89.99
Total: £98.69
(includes shipping: £8.70)
fluctuating computer component prices are nothing new..... It's not necessarily 'price fixing' if manufacturers over estimate demand or demand drops for some reason consumers benefit from lower prices. In the reverse scenarios prices rise....
companies have to try and assess how much to invest in production of a given line to maximise profits so it's not always in their interests to ramp up production.
These things are often cyclical I.e a tsunami wipes out 60% of production capacity for of a component.......prices shoot up.....Manufactures ramp up investment and production to capitalise on the increases prices...... supply inevitably overshoots demand....the price collapses...... production of the component is reduced or stopped....prices increase etc
doesn't have to be tsunami could be something like apple releasing a new product and buying loads of flash memory
companies have to try and assess how much to invest in production of a given line to maximise profits so it's not always in their interests to ramp up production.
These things are often cyclical I.e a tsunami wipes out 60% of production capacity for of a component.......prices shoot up.....Manufactures ramp up investment and production to capitalise on the increases prices...... supply inevitably overshoots demand....the price collapses...... production of the component is reduced or stopped....prices increase etc
doesn't have to be tsunami could be something like apple releasing a new product and buying loads of flash memory
that's a universally observed trend not at all unique to computer components (witness oil prices after a natural disaster for example) and is fully explained by collective human nature/ the nature of markets
a good example is a reverse scenario where prices suddenly collapse before slowly recovering I.e a sudden economic depression causes house price to collapse in a few months before slowly rising again over many years to their previous level.
the undisputable fact is that consumer electronics have got massively cheaper, more numerous and more powerful.
when viewed as a long term trend
when I bought my first x86 pc most households didn't even own a computer and the rather basic model I bought costme £1500 at the time!
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