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If that's what you want to label a dead man with all over social media then be my guest.

But he did say questionable things. You can respect the dead as well as the truth at the same time. Being dead doesn't make you exempt from criticism especially when you have well documented moments of saying dodgy things.

Perhaps a life lesson here is if you don't want to be called something, perhaps not act in a way that people can draw that conclusion when you're either alive or dead


Prince Phillip said:
"You'll get slitty eyes if you stay too long."

What a saint
 
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I haven't said anything on social media personally however people are allowed to not like someone, dead or alive.
Yes, but there’s such a thing as timing. The man is hardly cold and people destroying him without compassion.

I don’t think he was an out and out racist anyway. I just think he had outdated views like many old folk do, and he would say what he was thinking without worrying what people thought.
 
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Fair play to him for making it to 99. I wish his family the best.

Also

Phttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/04/09/48-prince-philips-greatest-quotes-funny-moments/

"British women can't cook" (in Britain in 1966).

"What do you gargle with? Pebbles?" (speaking to singer Tom Jones after the 1969 Royal Variety Performance).

"I declare this thing open, whatever it is." (on a visit to Canada in 1969).

"Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed" (during the 1981 recession).

"If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." (at a 1986 World Wildlife Fund meeting).

"It looks like a tart's bedroom." (on seeing plans for the Duke and Duchess of York's house at Sunninghill Park in 1988).

"Yak, yak, yak; come on get a move on." (shouted from the deck of Britannia in Belize in 1994 to the Queen who was chatting to her hosts on the quayside).

"We didn't have counsellors rushing around every time somebody let off a gun, asking 'Are you all right? Are you sure you don't have a ghastly problem?' You just got on with it." (about the Second World War commenting on modern stress counselling for servicemen in 1995).

"How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?" (to a driving instructor in Oban, Scotland, during a 1995 walkabout).

"If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" (in 1996, amid calls to ban firearms after the Dunblane shooting).

"Bloody silly fool!" (in 1997, referring to a Cambridge University car park attendant who did not recognise him). "It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." (pointing at an old-fashioned fusebox in a factory near Edinburgh in 1999).

"Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf." (to young deaf people in Cardiff, in 1999, referring to a school's steel band).

"They must be out of their minds." (in the Solomon Islands, in 1982, when he was told that the annual population growth was 5 per cent).

"You are a woman, aren't you?"(In Kenya, in 1984, after accepting a small gift from a local woman).

"If you stay here much longer, you'll all be slitty-eyed." (perhaps his most notorious comment - to British students in China, during a 1986 state visit).

"Your country is one of the most notorious centres of trading in endangered species in the world." (in Thailand, in 1991, after accepting a conservation award).

"Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease." (in Australia, in 1992, when asked to stroke a Koala bear).

"You can't have been here that long - you haven't got a pot belly." (to a Briton in Budapest, Hungary, in 1993).

"Aren't most of you descended from pirates?" (to a wealthy islander in the Cayman Islands in 1994).

"You managed not to get eaten, then?" (suggesting to a student in 1998 who had been trekking in Papua New Guinea that tribes there were still cannibals).

In Germany, in 1997, he welcomed German Chancellor Helmut Kohl at a trade fair as "Reichskanzler" - the last German leader who used the title was Adolf Hitler. "You're too fat to be an astronaut." (to 13-year-old Andrew Adams who told Philip he wanted to go into space. Salford, 2001).

"I wish he'd turn the microphone off." (muttered at the Royal Variety Performance as he watched Sir Elton John perform, 2001).

"Do you still throw spears at each other?" (In Australia in 2002 talking to a successful aborigine entrepreneur).

"You look like a suicide bomber." (to a young female officer wearing a bullet-proof vest on Stornoway, Isle of Lewis, in 2002).

"Do you know they're now producing eating dogs for anorexics?" (to a blind woman outside Exeter Cathedral, 2002).

"Well, you didn't design your beard too well, did you?" (to designer Stephen Judge about his tiny goatee beard in July 2009).

"There's a lot of your family in tonight." (after looking at the name badge of businessman Atul Patel at a Palace reception for British Indians in October 2009). "

Do you work in a strip club?" (to 24-year-old Barnstaple Sea Cadet Elizabeth Rendle when she told him she also worked in a nightclub in March 2010).

"Do you have a pair of knickers made out of this?" (pointing to some tartan to Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie a papal reception in Edinburgh in September 2010).

"Bits are beginning to drop off." (on approaching his 90th birthday, 2011).

"How many people have you knocked over this morning on that thing?" (meeting disabled David Miller who drives a mobility scooter at the Valentine Mansion in Redbridge in March 2012).

"I would get arrested if I unzipped that dress." (to 25-year-old council worker Hannah Jackson, who was wearing a dress with a zip running the length of its front, on a Jubilee visit to Bromley, Kent, in May 2012).

"The Philippines must be half empty as you're all here running the NHS." (on meeting a Filipino nurse at a Luton hospital in February 2013).

"Most stripping is done by hand." (to 83-year-old Mars factory worker Audrey Cook when discussing how she used to strip or cut Mars Bars by hand in April 2013).

"(Children) go to school because their parents don't want them in the house." (prompting giggles from Malala Yousafzai, who survived an assassination attempt by the Taliban after campaigning for the right of girls to go to school without fear - October 2013).

"Just take the ******* picture." (losing patience with an RAF photographer at events to mark the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Britain - July 2015).

"You look starved." (to a pensioner on a visit to the Charterhouse almshouse for elderly men - February 2017)

"I'm just a bloody amoeba." (on the Queen's decision that their children should be called Windsor, not Mountbatten).

"Gentlemen, I think it is time we pulled our fingers out."(to the Industrial Co-Partnership Association on Britain's inefficient industries in 1961).

"Are you asking me if the Queen is going to die?" (on being questioned on when the Prince of Wales would succeed to the throne).

"If the man had succeeded in abducting Anne, she would have given him a hell of a time while in captivity." (On a gunman who tried to kidnap the Princess Royal in 1974).

"I hope he breaks his bloody neck." (when a photographer covering a royal visit to India fell out of a tree).

"If it doesn't fart or eat hay, she's not interested." (on the Princess Royal).

"When a man opens a car door for his wife, it's either a new car or a new wife." (on marriage).

"It's a pleasant change to be in a country that isn't ruled by its people." (to Alfredo Stroessner, the Paraguayan dictator).

"Where did you get that hat?" (supposedly to the Queen at her Coronation).
 
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Funny how all my massive lefty friends seemingly hate the royals. Pretty indifferent myself but it's a sight to behold just how nasty some people can be. It seems to come down to just hating the rich.

RIP anyway.
If it wasn’t the royals it would be something else. Some people just love to hate “things” and or people.
 
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Most people wouldn’t last two minutes in his shoes. He served a life of service and distinction. A concept few of these people understand.
Funny how all my massive lefty friends seemingly hate the royals. Pretty indifferent myself but it's a sight to behold just how nasty some people can be. It seems to come down to just hating the rich.

RIP anyway.

Some people can't even afford to put food on the table for their kids. You can't blame them for being resentful of a family that are afforded every single conceivable opportunity, vanity and privilege that they most likely will never know. I'm not taking anything away from the guy, fair paly to him and all the great things he's done and I'm sure he's fought his own personal battles, but Christ...
 
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Some people can't even afford to put food on the table for their kids. You can't blame them for being resentful of a family that are afforded every single conceivable opportunity, vanity and privilege that they most likely will never know. I'm not taking anything away from the guy, fair paly to him and all the great things he's done, but Christ...
Which is why I'm not going to show too much sadness. I have friends in a similar position and the last year hasn't exactly been rosy for me either, but to lay it at the feet of someone like Prince Phillip seems utterly misguided to me. Each to their own.
 
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Some people can't even afford to put food on the table for their kids. You can't blame them for being resentful of a family that are afforded every single conceivable opportunity, vanity and privilege that they most likely will never know. I'm not taking anything away from the guy, fair paly to him and all the great things he's done and I'm sure he's fought his own personal battles, but Christ...

Everyones challenges are different. Removing the crown won’t instantly make the world a fairer place. You still need a head of state, and they are unlikely to live in a 2 bed semi.
 
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Fair play to him for making it to 99. I wish his family the best.

Also

Phttps://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/04/09/48-prince-philips-greatest-quotes-funny-moments/

"British women can't cook" (in Britain in 1966).

"What do you gargle with? Pebbles?" (speaking to singer Tom Jones after the 1969 Royal Variety Performance).

"I declare this thing open, whatever it is." (on a visit to Canada in 1969).

"Everybody was saying we must have more leisure. Now they are complaining they are unemployed" (during the 1981 recession).

"If it has got four legs and it is not a chair, if it has got two wings and it flies but is not an aeroplane, and if it swims and it is not a submarine, the Cantonese will eat it." (at a 1986 World Wildlife Fund meeting).

"It looks like a tart's bedroom." (on seeing plans for the Duke and Duchess of York's house at Sunninghill Park in 1988).

"Yak, yak, yak; come on get a move on." (shouted from the deck of Britannia in Belize in 1994 to the Queen who was chatting to her hosts on the quayside).

"We didn't have counsellors rushing around every time somebody let off a gun, asking 'Are you all right? Are you sure you don't have a ghastly problem?' You just got on with it." (about the Second World War commenting on modern stress counselling for servicemen in 1995).

"How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to get them through the test?" (to a driving instructor in Oban, Scotland, during a 1995 walkabout).

"If a cricketer, for instance, suddenly decided to go into a school and batter a lot of people to death with a cricket bat, which he could do very easily, I mean, are you going to ban cricket bats?" (in 1996, amid calls to ban firearms after the Dunblane shooting).

"Bloody silly fool!" (in 1997, referring to a Cambridge University car park attendant who did not recognise him). "It looks as if it was put in by an Indian." (pointing at an old-fashioned fusebox in a factory near Edinburgh in 1999).

"Deaf? If you are near there, no wonder you are deaf." (to young deaf people in Cardiff, in 1999, referring to a school's steel band).

"They must be out of their minds." (in the Solomon Islands, in 1982, when he was told that the annual population growth was 5 per cent).

"You are a woman, aren't you?"(In Kenya, in 1984, after accepting a small gift from a local woman).

"If you stay here much longer, you'll all be slitty-eyed." (perhaps his most notorious comment - to British students in China, during a 1986 state visit).

"Your country is one of the most notorious centres of trading in endangered species in the world." (in Thailand, in 1991, after accepting a conservation award).

"Oh no, I might catch some ghastly disease." (in Australia, in 1992, when asked to stroke a Koala bear).

"You can't have been here that long - you haven't got a pot belly." (to a Briton in Budapest, Hungary, in 1993).

"Aren't most of you descended from pirates?" (to a wealthy islander in the Cayman Islands in 1994).

"You managed not to get eaten, then?" (suggesting to a student in 1998 who had been trekking in Papua New Guinea that tribes there were still cannibals).

In Germany, in 1997, he welcomed German Chancellor Helmut Kohl at a trade fair as "Reichskanzler" - the last German leader who used the title was Adolf Hitler. "You're too fat to be an astronaut." (to 13-year-old Andrew Adams who told Philip he wanted to go into space. Salford, 2001).

"I wish he'd turn the microphone off." (muttered at the Royal Variety Performance as he watched Sir Elton John perform, 2001).

"Do you still throw spears at each other?" (In Australia in 2002 talking to a successful aborigine entrepreneur).

"You look like a suicide bomber." (to a young female officer wearing a bullet-proof vest on Stornoway, Isle of Lewis, in 2002).

"Do you know they're now producing eating dogs for anorexics?" (to a blind woman outside Exeter Cathedral, 2002).

"Well, you didn't design your beard too well, did you?" (to designer Stephen Judge about his tiny goatee beard in July 2009).

"There's a lot of your family in tonight." (after looking at the name badge of businessman Atul Patel at a Palace reception for British Indians in October 2009). "

Do you work in a strip club?" (to 24-year-old Barnstaple Sea Cadet Elizabeth Rendle when she told him she also worked in a nightclub in March 2010).

"Do you have a pair of knickers made out of this?" (pointing to some tartan to Scottish Conservative leader Annabel Goldie a papal reception in Edinburgh in September 2010).

"Bits are beginning to drop off." (on approaching his 90th birthday, 2011).

"How many people have you knocked over this morning on that thing?" (meeting disabled David Miller who drives a mobility scooter at the Valentine Mansion in Redbridge in March 2012).

"I would get arrested if I unzipped that dress." (to 25-year-old council worker Hannah Jackson, who was wearing a dress with a zip running the length of its front, on a Jubilee visit to Bromley, Kent, in May 2012).

"The Philippines must be half empty as you're all here running the NHS." (on meeting a Filipino nurse at a Luton hospital in February 2013).

"Most stripping is done by hand." (to 83-year-old Mars factory worker Audrey Cook when discussing how she used to strip or cut Mars Bars by hand in April 2013).

"(Children) go to school because their parents don't want them in the house." (prompting giggles from Malala Yousafzai, who survived an assassination attempt by the Taliban after campaigning for the right of girls to go to school without fear - October 2013).

"Just take the ******* picture." (losing patience with an RAF photographer at events to mark the 75th anniversary of the Battle of Britain - July 2015).

"You look starved." (to a pensioner on a visit to the Charterhouse almshouse for elderly men - February 2017)

"I'm just a bloody amoeba." (on the Queen's decision that their children should be called Windsor, not Mountbatten).

"Gentlemen, I think it is time we pulled our fingers out."(to the Industrial Co-Partnership Association on Britain's inefficient industries in 1961).

"Are you asking me if the Queen is going to die?" (on being questioned on when the Prince of Wales would succeed to the throne).

"If the man had succeeded in abducting Anne, she would have given him a hell of a time while in captivity." (On a gunman who tried to kidnap the Princess Royal in 1974).

"I hope he breaks his bloody neck." (when a photographer covering a royal visit to India fell out of a tree).

"If it doesn't fart or eat hay, she's not interested." (on the Princess Royal).

"When a man opens a car door for his wife, it's either a new car or a new wife." (on marriage).

"It's a pleasant change to be in a country that isn't ruled by its people." (to Alfredo Stroessner, the Paraguayan dictator).

"Where did you get that hat?" (supposedly to the Queen at her Coronation).

hehe he wouldn't last 5 mins on here with the mods ban hammer, weird all the love yet if any member spoke like that would get a grilling, some right odd bods on this forum.
 
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Everyones challenges are different. Removing the crown won’t instantly make the world a fairer place. You still need a head of state, and they are unlikely to live in a 2 bed semi.

I'm not saying being royalty removes all mental and physical health barriers, I'm merely saying that even at the best of times people only have empathy for anything that's within arms reach. That reach get's shortened a tremendous amount when your asked to empathise with someone who his guaranteed to have meals made for them until they die...
 

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Funny how all my massive lefty friends seemingly hate the royals. Pretty indifferent myself but it's a sight to behold just how nasty some people can be. It seems to come down to just hating the rich.

RIP anyway.


Not sure why you find it funny.

Royalty is pretty much the anti-thesis of all the left/socialist/communist ideals.

Position through inheritance rather than ability.
Excess accumulation of wealth.
Non democratic powers.
Etc etc etc.
 
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If it wasn’t the royals it would be something else. Some people just love to hate “things” and or people.

This. Especially on the internet. Its a cesspit really, so much bickering, arguing, keyboard warrior-ing and trolling. Said it a million times , all the internet proves is that when some people are granted the ability to say things anonymously they will do.
 
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I'm not saying being royalty removes all mental and physical health barriers, I'm merely saying that even at the best of times people only have empathy for anything that's within arms reach. That reach get's shortened a tremendous amount when your asked to empathise with someone who his guaranteed to have meals made for them until they die...

I understand the perspective, but it seems pretty short sighted to me. You might not have to worry about paying for tomorrow’s dinner, but in exchange you essentially have to give up your life, face intense worldwide scrutiny, spend decades infront of a camera recording everything you do or say, and try best to steer an institution that’s integral to the British constitution. I think I would rather worry about where tomorrow’s dinner is coming from.
 
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You have to view it as the institution. In that sense the institution is integral to the British constitution, and the crown has provided political stability for generations. Especially compared to our European friends. I would certainly consider myself a royalists, not because of individuals (although the Queen is an exception to that) but because of the institution.

As for the DoE, he fought against Fascism, National Socialism, championed causes throughout his life such as the environment and giving young people the opportunity to further themselves. No relationship over 7 decades is perfect but he stood by the Queen, he was a gentlemen in that he understood his position and that of hers. He had an opinion and sometimes wasn’t afraid to share it. There is a life worth celebrating and then some.

Most people wouldn’t last two minutes in his shoes. He served a life of service and distinction. A concept few of these people understand.

Everyones challenges are different. Removing the crown won’t instantly make the world a fairer place. You still need a head of state, and they are unlikely to live in a 2 bed semi.

Very well said.
 
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I understand the perspective, but it seems pretty short sighted to me. You might not have to worry about paying for tomorrow’s dinner, but in exchange you essentially have to give up your life, face intense worldwide scrutiny, spend decades infront of a camera recording everything you do or say, and try best to steer an institution that’s integral to the British constitution. I think I would rather worry about where tomorrow’s dinner is coming from.

I'm not saying you're wrong, as you said it's all perspective. Don't think there's a wrong or right way to see it to be honest, it's all in where you're standing.
 
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