The ones who say it's easy are the ones who are content with lying down and watch garbage TV all day. If you are mildly intelligent and you are not enthralled by the idea of watching "Deal or No Deal" every day followed by all the soaps, then it's hell.
Prison Life
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if you punch someone and they get badly injure or die but with no intent form yourself what kinda term and category would you get?
If you got caught with some illegal drugs but only for personal use what term and category would you get?
If you got caught with a hooker would you get prison? Or just a fine?
The above are common things people do that could lead to prison?
If you got caught with some illegal drugs but only for personal use what term and category would you get?
If you got caught with a hooker would you get prison? Or just a fine?
The above are common things people do that could lead to prison?
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I know of a few people who have stayed at Pentonville, and my mum has done counselling there.
Not a place you want to go to, as you can probably imagine.
Not a place you want to go to, as you can probably imagine.
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I've heard some of the London prisons are the worst (Brixton, Wormwood Scrubs). Luckily I wasn't in one of those and I'm not sure if this is true but I've heard stories such as "transfer 500 quid to my account tomorrow or we'll cut your face up" is commonplace in those hell holes.
so its done on an individual basis not per crime..
not like below
eg caught with cocaine cat b
caught with cannabis cat c
dealing heroin cat a
but
harmless drug dealer cat c
serial killer cat a
Its more about how dangerous an individual you are.
depends on the circumstances
depends on the drug, exact quantity, manner in which you were caught with it.
Fined probably, id imagine you'd have to be a persistent offender of prostitutes to be jailed for it, the shame of your family knowing and a hefty fine is what the police rely on to deter.
personally i see incentives as a good thing, if you treat them like dogs they will be released back into society and act like dogs again.
people who say that jail is easy are usually people who have nothing on the outside and so feel at home in prison, educate them, show them that being a contributing member of society can bring its own rewards and self satisfaction and they will be able to leave prison and build something that resembles a life and so have something other than prison that feels secure and constant. incentives are a means to an end and aslong as they arnt handed out easily so as to water down the feeling of accomplishment that prisoners would feel when they have earned there privilege then they work.
That's looking at the whole prison system as if all crimes are equal. I think the classification of "punishment", "rehab" and both should entirely be down to what the person did to earn the prison time.
A lot of it depends on what space they have. I don't know much about Cat A but it's mostly for dangerous prisoners. Most people will be sent to a cat B for the first few weeks/months before they're re-evaluated. If they are low risk (like I was in with a guy who got 6 months for driving his works van without a license 
) then they get transferred to cat D (open prison) if there is a space for you. If not, tough luck - you stay with the drug dealers and guys who are in for their habit of smashing pint glasses in peoples faces, even if you're inside for some "white collar" crime. The CJS doesn't give a ****.
) then they get transferred to cat D (open prison) if there is a space for you. If not, tough luck - you stay with the drug dealers and guys who are in for their habit of smashing pint glasses in peoples faces, even if you're inside for some "white collar" crime. The CJS doesn't give a ****.[TW]Fox;20151266 said:
That's a bit of an over-generalisation isn't it? A lot of people have just made mistakes.
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Incentives for good behaviour are fine, the problem is that when incentives are given for normal behaviour, what happens when they leave prison and aren't rewarded for not beating anyone up?
As a kid I used to have 2 recurring nightmares. The first was my house burning down. The second was being sent to jail.
Its still a terrifying enough prospect to keep me from committing any crimes- sounds absolutely horrible. Cant believe that some people think it worth the risk or "easy".
Its still a terrifying enough prospect to keep me from committing any crimes- sounds absolutely horrible. Cant believe that some people think it worth the risk or "easy".
When you're dealing with criminals, normal behaviour is good behaviour.
In related news, call me when you've got children and you want to know something about behavioural conditioning.
People have realized that Prison should be about rehabilitation and not punishment yes, as this leads to a massive reduction in re-offending rates. Part of rehabilitation revolves around rewarding good behavior for those that society has failed.
There are plenty of idiots out there who are not criminals themselves who are under the impression that criminals think the same way they do, despite them being completely different kinds of people, these same people don't realize that criminals respond differently to things in comparison to them, so where by punishment is a deterrent to a non criminal it isn't to someone who is willing to break the law in the first place.
Punishment is not a deterrent. Punishment does not work.
Source? Because I'm pretty positive most people can afford the things people get in prison as well as having the luxury of a little thing called freedom.
Freedom is the big factor because having a TV and games console isn't really "better off" than people on the outside unless you're talking about the homeless. In which case you're arguing about the problem of homelessness rather than prison inmates having a better life.
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Just what I was thinking. You can get a TV almost free - plenty of people throwing perfectly good 32" Widescreen CRT's away these days and whats a Playstation really worth? 30 quid?
Daily Mail style rubbish IMHO. There are very few people in Prison with more than people on the outside can afford.
some peoples lifes on the outisde world are as bad or worse than prison so going to jail is no detterent for them.
I fear those people.
Basically life in prison or out is little difference to them. Off course when they are in they miss beating people up, drugs etc...they even brag about their prison terms....idiots
Well the length of incarceration generally covers that. More serious crimes get a longer sentence.
Seriously? I've met numerous people who work hard but can't afford things like games consoles and TVs. I once dated a girl whose family paid for their TV by putting a quid in a box next to it for each amount of time they wanted to use it.
Hell, I wasn't allowed a games console until I was 12 because we "couldn't afford it".