Pro Evolution 2011

But actual football often has tedious build up as the attacking team probes the defence to try and find an opening.
I think that's important, and makes a big difference in the satisfaction of scoring, especially if a team has frustrated you all game and you manage to score in the final kick of the game.
IRT atmosphere, I usually get a kit + chants patch installed within the first few days from evo-web, so the chanting generally sounds a lot more realistic to me in PES than FIFA. So to be fair, the stock atmospherics in FIFA probably are better, but I still find scoring much more satisfying in PES than FIFA.
I personally think the commentary in both games is equally poor, so either way I'd have it switched off after a few days.
 
mcwildcard said:
But actual football often has tedious build up as the attacking team probes the defence to try and find an opening.
I think that's important, and makes a big difference in the satisfaction of scoring, especially if a team has frustrated you all game and you manage to score in the final kick of the game.
IRT atmosphere, I usually get a kit + chants patch installed within the first few days from evo-web, so the chanting generally sounds a lot more realistic to me in PES than FIFA. So to be fair, the stock atmospherics in FIFA probably are better, but I still find scoring much more satisfying in PES than FIFA.
I personally think the commentary in both games is equally poor, so either way I'd have it switched off after a few days.
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Yes I can see your points. I'm going to try the game again with faster game speed as I felt it was a bit slow for my liking, I think I've been playing it wrong. I'll probably end up renting the full game, I don't think I could spend £30+ on a game with such bad running animations, it's as if they have the one animation but it doesn't link up very well so it's just animation then a 1 or 2 frame jerk straight into the animation again, and that just repeats its' self as you try to dribble the ball. I'll give it another go.
 
Looking at other forums also, pretty much a mixed result with how people have taken to it.

I wonder how much of the final code it is and there is still a few issues untested like the online lag & the horrific a.i. in become a legend mode etc to try first before making a purchase.
 
shaffaaf27 said:
i remember installing patches on the ps2 days, didn't realise you could do it for the ps3!
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Is the same poeple who did the option file for the PS2 still doing it for the PS3? Cant remember the name but i used to wait till it came out to be able to play PES properly.

This year it does look much better, might have to get the demo to try.
 
After adjusting the game speed, the difficulty level and the control scheme I am enjoying this more than I did the first time around. The running animation is still a bit awkward but the passing and the shooting is excellent, I think I will rent this and see how the full game stacks up to the demo.

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K1LLSW1TCH said:
I guess that's your personal opinion but I am the opposite way around. In FIFA the commentary team will compliment you on your achievement, and not only that but you get to celebrate the goal however you like, with whatever celebration you choose, unlike PES which is score and then be presented with a generic camera showing your player running off. The crowd makes an effort in FIFA as well, in the PES demo I hardly noticed much difference in the standard crowd noise and the after goal crowd noise.
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In PES when you score, you stop hearing the repeated dull wallop while you seem to be kicking a sack full of hardened mash potato...

DUH DUH (score) crowd whimper

Just thought about this more - PES is the Latvian of football games

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
ps3ud0 said:
In PES when you score, you stop hearing the repeated dull wallop while you seem to be kicking a sack full of hardened mash potato...

DUH DUH (score) crowd whimper

Just thought about this more - PES is the Latvian of football games

ps3ud0 :cool:
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Some of us prefer gameplay over sound and graphics. :p
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Yes I can see your points. I'm going to try the game again with faster game speed as I felt it was a bit slow for my liking, I think I've been playing it wrong. I'll probably end up renting the full game, I don't think I could spend £30+ on a game with such bad running animations, it's as if they have the one animation but it doesn't link up very well so it's just animation then a 1 or 2 frame jerk straight into the animation again, and that just repeats its' self as you try to dribble the ball. I'll give it another go.
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Basically all the component animations seem fine - how it passes the ball or receives it etc, but when these are put together in an animation cycle they dont match up - its really obvious.

Still annoys me that the ball doesnt appear to roll - just feels/sounds like a dead weight - England wishes we had it in the WC...
skippi90 said:
Some of us prefer gameplay over sound and graphics. :p
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The gameplay is ******* ***** - given this demo at least 3 hours - I can score more but they are all simple goals that I did in FIFA with no frustrating effort. The games just not fun - it has all the disadvantages I hate about FIFA but none of the advantages...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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The last couple of Pro Evos for me have always ended up devolving into pegging it rapidly at the defense with your best player, or taking long range pot-shots. The build up tends to be a lot less fluid, and the lack of ability to start players on off the ball runs frustrates me no end. Yes, passing in Fifa tends to be a bit ping-pong (although that's apparently being addressed in this version), but on the plus side you can score some awesome passing goals as players tend to make the runs which are conducive to this. The lack of decent off the ball movements in recent Pro Evos drives me nuts...
 
ps3ud0 said:
The gameplay is ******* ***** - given this demo at least 3 hours - I can score more but they are all simple goals that I did in FIFA with no frustrating effort. The games just not fun - it has all the disadvantages I hate about FIFA but none of the advantages...

ps3ud0 :cool:
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So your problem with the gameplay is that you can't waltz through for a clean shot on goal with every attack? PES is as close to proper football as you can get atm, and that's why people love it.

FIFA, while it has it's place, is arcade in comparison, and whilst I will get it for club, PES will be my football game of choice this year.
 
ps3ud0 said:
**** *** - you actually cant do that? Thought it was me not knowing the right button combination!

ps3ud0 :cool:
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I don't think so...you can hold L1 while making a pass to have the player who made the pass continue his run in preparation for a one-two, but I don't believe you can actually start another player on a run.
 
skippi90 said:
So your problem with the gameplay is that you can't waltz through for a clean shot on goal with every attack? PES is as close to proper football as you can get atm, and that's why people love it.

FIFA, while it has it's place, is arcade in comparison, and whilst I will get it for club, PES will be my football game of choice this year.
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Thats the problem I can - theres nothing in the game to make me need to be creative or gives me the control to attempt to be - the amount of times Ive ran up to Messi or Villa with a defender hoping they may run off into space or do something is amazing - everytime Ive been disappointed...

PES is nothing like proper football in this century - maybe in Stanley Matthews day when the ball was heavier and so you were too tired to make runs off the ball.

It appears to me that people seem to rave about satisfaction of scoring a PES goal, not because its a good goal but more that PESs AI has actually done something right somewhere down the line - these are things that are just givens in FIFA and though that might lead to easier goals, maybe the goal in question just should be...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
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manic111 said:
The last couple of Pro Evos for me have always ended up devolving into pegging it rapidly at the defense with your best player, or taking long range pot-shots. The build up tends to be a lot less fluid, and the lack of ability to start players on off the ball runs frustrates me no end. Yes, passing in Fifa tends to be a bit ping-pong (although that's apparently being addressed in this version), but on the plus side you can score some awesome passing goals as players tend to make the runs which are conducive to this. The lack of decent off the ball movements in recent Pro Evos drives me nuts...
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Really? I've had no problems with players making runs. I've played numerous 1-2s in every game I've played with overlapping fullbacks.
 
skippi90 said:
Really? I've had no problems with players making runs. I've played numerous 1-2s in every game I've played with overlapping fullbacks.
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Each to their own I guess - I always end up with static strikers and nobody moving through the middle. Full back and wingers admittedly tend to be OK, but I find it a real struggle to get any passing moves going through the middle, even with the best sides in Pro.

In terms of player movement I think Pro 5 was the best game, it seemed to work back then...
 
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