Prometheus 2 - what we know so far
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I remember leaving the cinema after seeing the first and was just in awe at how bad it was. I have never seen any more of the Alien films and even I spotted gaping plot holes in the story. The characters were all brain dead, some seemed to be there for no reason other than to make up numbers and there were so many glaring errors that it was laughable.
The problem was, with a bit more effort it could have been really good but it was like they made it whilst drunk!
The problem was, with a bit more effort it could have been really good but it was like they made it whilst drunk!
Nope...DC is much better.
Wouldn't say that, the scene with the back and forth with the engineer makes more sense as to why he goes boogaloo with humans comparing themselves to the engineers, in the movie he just goes ape for no reason.
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^ Agree. I think they would've kept that scene had Weyland's dialogue not been so awful and cringeworthy.
Not really, it also helps explain why Milburn wasn't scared of the mutated snake creature, he'd already seen them in a smaller state. As it stands without that scene it comes across as really out of character he'd reach out towards the snake.
Another thing is the whole fight with the engineer and rapeface at the end is so abrupt because they cut so much of it.
Also, story aside, Prometheus is one of the best looking 3D movies around, some scenes in that movie are an absolute work of art.
I think we've heard that before
how many versions of Alien/Bladerunner have we had over the years, who knows it may be part of the hype machine for chapter 2
Not sure if you guys have talked about it but else where it has been discussed that the stupidity (possibly like mine for opening this can of worms
) of the team was actually part of Vickers plan. She wanted the mission to be botched and succession in the company to be without doubt. Unfortunately for her she underestimated what they'd findNot sure if you guys have talked about it but else where it has been discussed that the stupidity (possibly like mine for opening this can of worms
I've heard the theory and I kind of like it, however i'd say the poor characters are down to poor writing, simple as that.
The deleted scenes just highlight the ineptitude of the writing. I can see why they were removed, particularly because - idiocy aside - the pace of the film is still quite slick.
And I don't think anyone's ever argued about how good the set design, make up, costume, cinematography and direction are in the film. It's just the script and the editing that really makes it terrible.
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It is a beautiful film, based on a wonderful world and lore, with the most awful scripting, backed up with the most extreme of explanations.
It should not take a second film to explain away the retardation of the first, this isn't clever, this isn't smart. This is terrible.
It should not take a second film to explain away the retardation of the first, this isn't clever, this isn't smart. This is terrible.
It amazes me that people actually consider Alien 4 to be better than 3. I personally thought 3 was fairly good, but 4 was an absolute piece of steaming manure that is an utter stain on the franchise.
As are the AVP films for that matter. The moment the predator passes the tail as a spear and a head as a shield onto that woman literally had me laughing my **** off, unbelievably appalling.
As are the AVP films for that matter. The moment the predator passes the tail as a spear and a head as a shield onto that woman literally had me laughing my **** off, unbelievably appalling.
4 is terrible - but in a popcorn and suspend disbelief kind of way I found it much more enjoyable than 3.
While the director's cut improves 3 a bit its still a very boring and drab movie IMO and any pretence of being deeper or more of a thinkers movie than the others in the series is barely skin deep at best.
Personally I liked Aliens the best though - its a good escapism movie.
EDIT: Just saw the reply to my older post before lol.
I've more recently watched the directors cut and still stand by my original comment, sure there are many great things about the movie in their own individuality but none of it really pays off as a whole. (Probably doesn't help that I've seen the central premise of the movie done so many times in other movies before and since albeit with different window dressing so its not really original for me). End of the day I sat through it and it never once really absorbed me or had me in suspense or feeling afraid whereas I'm yet to make it through the thing :S
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It was a nod to the original graphic novel which included that idea. I wish they'd stuck to the original story as the novel was very good!
As awful as Alien 4 was (and I agree), Prometheus was worse.
I believe it may be the single most disappointing film I have ever seen. Garbage. Mostly I'm talking about the script. The cinematography and other technical aspects were probably pretty good.
But a garbage script makes a garbage film in my book.
Pretty much totally this.
