Pronouns: he , him, she, her, they, them

No, no one would be offended if you used the wrong pronoun without knowing what to use. However, if they offered their preferred pronoun, then it’s just polite to use it.

That being said, no one in my work has it. There’s no push to do it and I’ve never ever been asked for it. What industries are these flourishing in? As it’s not automotive!
 
`Er indoors had one her Mrs. Bouquet soirees before Covid and someone we know rang to say they were bringing their son, but he'd "transgendered" and would be wearing girl's clothes and would now be called Sarah, and no longer Steven. He asked if it would be a problem for us to inform the other guests that know them?

Now `er indoors is a little more pretentious and introverted than I am, so she was happy when I said I'd phone this fellow and have a chat to put him at ease.

"Hi Paul, sorry to hear of your problem, but I have a simple solution, leave "Sarah" at home to try on his new clothes and I'll keep the news quiet and leave it to you who you tell of this dilemma. If that suits, see you and Julie at the party, if not, well, good luck".

I got all the usual why did you say that, we've known them for years, they'll never speak to us again, blah blah, only to find out last month it's back to Steven and presumably they now have a wardrobe of sweaty girl's clothes to get rid of. Oh, and Paul wanted some advice about his engine management light that keeps coming on, so all communications hadn't been severed...

Stand your ground, that's what I say.
 
I find it just as bad when certain people like to put their educational qualifications at the end of their name (excluding say the medical field where it's probably more relevant).

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Tom Smith (BSc)

So, you have a Bronze Swimming certificate, well done.
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I only escaped having to deal with this at work by dint of sitting inside a secure area full of normal, engineering type folks. HR left us alone as long as the yearly online HR training packages were passed on time.
 
Each to their own I say.
Not a fan as it makes it "tricky".

Same way I don't engage in heated feminist, race debates. As a white male it's easy to put a foot wrong. It's just not worth the hassle.

I'll just use their name or something ambiguous like 'they'.


Enough to worry about in world without yet more trip hazards. But no issue with people identifying how they like.
 
Although anyone who says they/them needs to look between their legs for confirmation of their true pronoun.
Lets not be fatphobic. Some people look down and the belly gets in the way of them seeing anything, so how can they be sure of what's going on down there. :D

If they were serious about the non gendered pronouns thing they would be using "it".

The one that cements this to all be a farce, is the people that mix pronouns. Such as She/him, or he/they. Some people just want to feel special.
 
I find the fuss about putting "pronouns" in emails etc funny.

I am old enough I remember things like my teachers being very certain to make sure that we used the correct terms for them, and it seems it's just people carrying on that, but with a little extra.
I mean any form you have from years back would already likely have had at least 3 ways specifically to describe a woman and woe betide you if you used the wrong one to describe your teacher 40 years ago ;) I had one who made very certain she was known as Ms*, let alone the dozens of other descriptors that people put in front of their name (and god forbid you refer to an older Consultant as Dr, they worked very hard to become a Mr:p).
It's even funnier when you've done English lit and remember that the whole "they/them" thing has been in use since Shakespear so it's not even something new fangled, it's something really olde that's come back into use.

Heck from memory I'm still listed as "Master Werewolf" on one of my bank accounts as I've had it since I was a child, and IIRC it was the option the bank teller used to differentiate between a young male and an adult one when setting up accounts.

As a couple of people have said, no one really gets offended if you use the wrong term by mistake, but it's polite to try and use the correct one, and if you are deliberately using the wrong one then you are the problem as you're ignoring basic levels of politeness (it costs nothing to be polite).


*She also used to teach me to address any letter to a company where I didn't know who would be opening it to "Dear Madam/Sir" or similar, her reasoning being that it was almost certain to be a woman that opened the mail initially as most secretaries were women.;)
 
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That being said, no one in my work has it. There’s no push to do it and I’ve never ever been asked for it. What industries are these flourishing in? As it’s not automotive!
It's embarrassingly common in the RAF.

Then again they are also forced to use one of their precious 8 annual objectives (which make up a huge part of their report, and as a result, promotion prospects) by parroting the same string of text as their colleagues, which refers to contributing to/fostering a diverse and inclusive workplace. I'm sure our enemies are trembling.
 
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99% of people stating their pronouns in email signatures are virtue signaling to show how progressive they are, even when it's completely obvious. Yes thank you Andrew for telling me you are infact a man.
 
I largely ignore it. For me it's just a fad that will disappear - though I will admit that sometimes I deal with people with ambiguous names, but how hard is it to refer to them by name rather than by a pronoun?

I got into hot water with my previous HR director when I refused to state my pronouns - I said "I don't have any" and then followed up with "if someone doesn't know how to address me they can use my name".

Meh, it doesn't bother me that people want to do it, and if it helps some people with a bit of insecurity or going through a difficult time with their identity then it does me no harm, but I'm afraid I'm dead against virtue signalling (although we all do it at some point) so I will agree to disagree with the concept but not go out of my way to cause a fuss.
 
99% of people stating their pronouns in email signatures are virtue signaling to show how progressive they are, even when it's completely obvious. Yes thank you Andrew for telling me you are infact a man.
Really so you'd know if a Sam or a Kim was a man or a woman without ever met them?
Let alone those who don't have "English" first names, or who are known by a shortened version of their name.
There are three Sam's in my extended family, two are women, one is a man, I had both an aunt and an uncle "Chris".
 
Doesn't really bother me although it just suddenly appeared from no where and I don't really understand why it suddenly became a thing but I'm a bit reclusive these days and don't pay much attention to social media and the news.

There are some other things that I do find odd though.

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