Pronouns: he , him, she, her, they, them

Really so you'd know if a Sam or a Kim was a man or a woman without ever met them?
Let alone those who don't have "English" first names, or who are known by a shortened version of their name.
There are three Sam's in my extended family, two are women, one is a man, I had both an aunt and an uncle "Chris".

I have come across instances where I didn't know if a colleague was male or female based on their name, you know what happened? It didn't matter, I figured it out, no one cared. I understand there's a culture in work places to show how progressive and left leaning you are in order to pander to people who took degrees in Human Resources, but I won't be doing it, cheers.
 
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You'd be amazed how much I email people all the time who i've never spoken to on the phone - And yes sometimes I need to know a pronoun as their name isn't gender specific.

So far i've not dealt with anyone who has put 'they/them' pronouns on an email

I run a Discord server and most people have their pronouns listed. The last majority of people are he/him or she/her, there are a few they/thems, some he/she/its and one qi/qim.
 
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i bet that's a fun place full of lots of fun easygoing people. :p

Actually it is because it's really well admin'd. Occasionally we get some self-important morons or trolls and they tend to last about five minutes. It is possible to run a decent server, you just need to be quite heavy with the banhammer and rule-retention. I know what you mean though, a lot of them are really awful.
 
It's even funnier when you've done English lit and remember that the whole "they/them" thing has been in use since Shakespear so it's not even something new fangled, it's something really olde that's come back into use.

Nah, it never went away in the first place, it's just that some people don't seem to have noticed.
It's typically been used when gender is unknown, or to be concealed, or sometimes just when it's not relevant.

Concealed:

Vicar: "I'd like to announce to the congregation that someone has made a very generous donation of £500 to the Church roof fund, I understand they wish to remain anonymous but I would very much like to say thank you to them, now please turn to page..."

Unknown:

"Ah, someone's left their suitcase on the train, there's no name tag, I'll hand it into lost property, I hope they are able to get it back"
 
We should just speak Finnish - it has no gender specific pronouns. Problem for everybody solved.
 
Most of the time I think they're just doing it because the company (quite prevalent at universities for the student support staff for obvious reasons) they work for has ordered them to, but maybe that's naive and it really is a thing that more people than I imagined would bother with.

Anyway really don't care about someone's gender in an email unless that is literally the subject matter but not going to cry about people feeling the need to put it in there it's just a few letters that make them feel better.
 
Anyway really don't care about someone's gender in an email unless that is literally the subject matter but not going to cry about people feeling the need to put it in there it's just a few letters that make them feel better.
I've seen it used by people with gender neutral names a lot more to avoid that surprise, when you realize the Alex you have been emailing for weeks is a woman and not a man
 
When I first answered a phone at work, a few decades back i answered to state my surname as 'Smith' not Andrew Smith or Mr. Smith, just Smith. Eventually I adopted a more laid back approach answering to Andy Smith. Maybe it was the times as at school we were always addressed without pronouns, just as Smith.

Then again all the TV shows were like Taggart and Morse.

BTW my name is not actually Smith.
 
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When I first answered a phone at work, a few decades back i answered to state my surname as 'Smith' not Andrew Smith or Mr. Smith, just Smith. Eventually I adopted a more laid back approach answering to Andy Smith. Maybe it was the times as at school we were always addressed without pronouns, just as Smith.

Then again all the TV shows were like Taggart and Morse.

BTW my name is not actually Smith.

 
I run a Discord server and most people have their pronouns listed. The last majority of people are he/him or she/her, there are a few they/thems, some he/she/its and one qi/qim.

Is it like the dps, healers then the tanks and poor old qi missed out on the beta and rolled warlock day one on role play?
 
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