Proposed Duty on vaping products

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I was a smoker until around 6 years ago; I switched to vaping mixing my own liquids using pharma grade PEG and V.G. bases with no flavouring ( don't see the point in flavours and have an addictive personality), 0-3mg per ml. The proposed duties ( prior to "Public Consultation" { probably the most informed group in the world due to social media}),would see a levy of £1.00 per 10ml of nicotine free e liquid increasing with nicotine content.
Whilst fully aware that nicotine is toxic, I am personally not aware of a significant outbreak of solvent related respiratory issues ( exposure to either PEG or V.G. commonly used as bases would be acute for vapers) within the last 8 or so years, so would wonder if this was some kind of "cash grab" that'll use Public Health ( we're constrained by the same rules as smokers in public spaces and I personally haven't smoked in the house since we had kids 22 years ago) as a tagline. I wholeheartedly condone a ban on disposable vapes, but can't help feeling that this one's a punishment for not paying whatever a packet of smokes costs theses days. If funds are required by central government, why won't they have the cojones to admit it and raise basic income tax rather than pile another optional "levy"( maybe it's an election winner as they won't have to implement it).
Rant over.
 
I think the intention of the cost increase in vaping is to stop people taking it up when they haven't previously smoked at all. Vaping was supposed to be a way for smokers to stop smoking, not for people who've never smoked (especially younger people) to find a way to get addicted to nicotine without smoking.
 
Vaping can be pretty disgusting, although no doubt a few ruining it for the rest as normal. If this leads to less of it, good riddance.

Jack_green said:
I smoke 1 cigarette a day, sometimes I go weeks with out smoking.
For instance last week brought a pack and binned 12 out of the pack, leaving me with 8 to smoke. Haven't smoked since Wednesday.
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Don't they sell 10 packs anymore?
 
Disposables, sure ban as they're also an environmental issue.

There are laws in place to prevent kids getting hold of them, enforce them. Hard.

Taxing it all? Some will just stick to killer sticks and to think people who started vaping won't just start with cigarettes instead is naive.

Humans have been using tobacco for over 12,000 years.

Nicotine is a glorious thing. Don't want to give it up like I don't want to give up caffeine or others alcohol (not one of my vices).
 
EvilRob said:
Don't they sell 10 packs anymore?
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No, they don't. You can't buy a 10 pack anymore and have to drop over a tenner to get some cigarettes. That's what tipped me into no longer buying smokes once or twice a year at social occasions. But have still bummed the odd cigarette from people.
 
413x said:
Ban on disposable vapes is long overdue there are thrown all over the place here.
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It's funny because I see more vapes thrown around than used fag ends, it's so stupid they didn't do something like enforce a deposit fee like we used to do with glass bottles, then they could at least be recycled maybe
 
danlightbulb said:
I think the intention of the cost increase in vaping is to stop people taking it up when they haven't previously smoked at all. Vaping was supposed to be a way for smokers to stop smoking, not for people who've never smoked (especially younger people) to find a way to get addicted to nicotine without smoking.
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I think vaping was invented as an alternative to smoking, not a means to help people quit. It’s a subtle difference.
 
One More Solo said:
I think vaping was invented as an alternative to smoking, not a means to help people quit. It’s a subtle difference.
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Vaping is just a means to keep making money from getting people addicted to drugs.

Yes they can get you off smoking, I used vapes to quit, but in order to do that, you need to taper down to 0mg nicotine, which most people don't do, they seem to just get even more hooked by constantly sucking down high nicotine liquids.
 
I used to smoke around 20 a day but everytime I tried to quit by gradually cutting down I wouldn't be able to. Even if I stopped for a day I relented and went back. I also worked in a factory where could smoke on the shop floor and about half of us smoked. I didn't use any substitute to quit, just went cold turkey. However I had had a operation on my sinuses and didn't want to start again to get back to the same problem. I started smoking at 14 quit at 30.
My mum and dad both smoked and both quit without any help just went cold turkey and my dad started at 12 and stopped around 70.
 
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