Proposed Duty on vaping products

Can you theoretically kill someone with a nicotine overdose in a vape? All you home chemists can u just make a 99% nicotine solution, vape that :P
Asking for a friend....
 
Vapes do need some form of tax.
It clearly isn't as bad as you as smoking, but vapers are still nicotine addicts and there is no way it is harmless over a lifetime.
My hope it that the taxation is much much lower than that of tobacco.
As others have said, it is a 'sin tax' to replace some of the venue lost from tobacco. I am quite surprised it took this long to be honest.
I do think flavoured vapes need banning. I am sure my 4y old niece would love a Haribo flavoured one.
I'm not a smoker or vaper, nor an ex-smoker/vaper.
 
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OpenToSuggestions said:
Vapes do need some form of tax.
It clearly isn't as bad as you as smoking, but vapers are still nicotine addicts and there is no way it is harmless over a lifetime.
My hope it that the taxation is much much lower than that of tobacco.
As others have said, it is a 'sin tax' to replace some of the venue lost from tobacco. I am quite surprised it took this long to be honest.
I do think flavoured vapes need banning. I am sure my 4y old niece would love a Haribo flavoured one.
I'm not a smoker or vaper, nor an ex-smoker/vaper.
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The evidence to support it one way or another is probably too limited in time yet, give it one generation of vapers and you might see more data one way or the other.
 
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tonys said:
The evidence to support it one way or another is probably too limited in time yet, give it one generation of vapers and you might see more data one way or the other.
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I think you are right.
Vaping does feel like a better option for those already addicted.
Why on earth <25y olds are addicted vapers who never smoked blows my mind.
Easy for me to say though, I have only ever smoked or vaped drunk.
 
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silvagti said:
Whilst it doesn’t have the particulate of tobacco it’s clear that, even without nicotine, inhaling what smells like air freshener directly into your lungs regularly can’t be good for your respiratory health!
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I've had to sit in a van while someone smoked after I had given up smoking and believe me I think I'd rather have that, than than the cloud of vapour and smell of a vape
 
silvagti said:
Whilst it doesn’t have the particulate of tobacco it’s clear that, even without nicotine, inhaling what smells like air freshener directly into your lungs regularly can’t be good for your respiratory health!
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If we want to get into talk of particulates, there is a very strong argument for heavily penalising wood burning stove owners.
 
Taxing disposable capes is fine by me as the waste harms the environment and that money could/should be used for cleaning up the mess.

But taxing raw vaping ingredients is a slippery slope into increasing control over the population. Taxing things just because people enjoy them feels dystopian to me.

Often it's in the name of protecting children, which amazes me that the solution is to treat adults like children too.
 
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Chojin said:
Taxing disposable capes is fine by me as the waste harms the environment and that money could/should be used for cleaning up the mess.

But taxing raw vaping ingredients is a slippery slope into increasing control over the population. Taxing things just because people enjoy them feels dystopian to me.
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Unfortunately you have to tax poor behaviours as long as the NHS treats everybody for free no matter the cause of the health complaint.
 
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Sure I get that logic but define poor behaviours. Someone doing a sport and breaking bones is a strain on the NHS also for example.
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I agree. I think if you fall off your bicycle and injure your head and you chose not to wear a helmet then there should be a fine, but it would be very easy to take the thread off onto many tangents!

Vaping needs to be taxed as it is still an addictive substance with no health benefits.
 
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LuckyBenski said:
How is it different to tobacco?
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Well it's a loophole in the sense that people are getting their nicotine fix from vaping.

But it's just neurochemistry at the end of the day. Let's say there was a paragraph of text and if read it, you would get the same effect. Would the government tax that too?
 
I used vaping to give up. Slowly worked my way down the nicotine strengths and then mixed 0% with the lowest until I was basically nicotine free, at that point I just stopped vaping and it was painless. I can't imagine vaping is harmless, you are taking chemicals deep into your lungs and holding it for a couple of seconds. As a way to give up smoking though its fantastic.
 
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