vaping is for people who want to think they quit a bad habit but just changed the method of intake.
may as well buy a life time supply of nicotine patches, it's the same thing
Proposed Duty on vaping products
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may as well buy a life time supply of nicotine patches, it's the same thing
It seems totally wrong-headed to me, we want the UK to be smoke free by 2030 and to help achieve this we're going to make the alternative more expensive.
And you know it won't stop at whatever duty they initially apply, every budget they'll slowly turn the screws until you're paying £20 for a single bottle of liquid.
If they want to reduce the use of disposable vapes then tax them, taxing things is meant to dissuade people from buying/using them, why do they want to dissuade people from vaping.
And you know it won't stop at whatever duty they initially apply, every budget they'll slowly turn the screws until you're paying £20 for a single bottle of liquid.
If they want to reduce the use of disposable vapes then tax them, taxing things is meant to dissuade people from buying/using them, why do they want to dissuade people from vaping.
Soldato
I'm an ex smoker who gave up after a long time using lozenges. I smoked for fifty years. I do still like the smell of tobacco smoke particularly pipe or cigars.
If people want to smoke and they can afford it and they understand that it may kill them earlier, I am not going to rain on their parade (or dogend). Expansion of vaping and encouraging the young to take up a pointless and expensive habit is pure exploitation by some very unsavoury characters who probably aim to avoid taxation anyway.
Good on Jeremy Hunt for trying.
Soldato
Yeh becuase we often have to breath in your crappy fumes (which is worse than smoking in the first place) and most smokers absolute reek.
I'm with you on this however I think there will be an impact on the NHS in years to come when they realise that it's causing health issues, the same as smoking. There have been some cases of people with lung issuses after vaping. This might be down to a number of factors but we would need more research done on it, not just take something on face value. Smoking was thought to be OK to start with and even when there was proof that it caused lung cancer people just kept on smoking. The manufacturers were even allowed to make adverts that promoted their cigarettes were good for you
You can't breath in my crappy fumes as I don't smoke anymore. I however have to breath in the crappy smelling cigarette and vaping fumes
Soldato
Smoking and vaping should not be conflated.
It's (a bit) like comparing combustion engines to EVs.
It's (a bit) like comparing combustion engines to EVs.
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Where? Is it in the Pub or Restaurant that offends you? Office, Bus, Gym? Oh wait....
Yup. Nowt more puritanical....
They have increase tax on cigarettes over the years but people still buy them, at what prices they are now I wouldn't be able to afford it. The government has banned the use of one time plastics like throw away cutlery and other items so disposable vapes are nothing different.
I would say hybrid and ICE to be more of a comparison
People smoke and vape in the street I think you'll find and I sometimes have to walk past them while they are exhaling. I'm not being puritanical just replying to a statement that was made. I don't care if you smoke or vape that's up to you.
Soldato
The tar is the difference but they are equally as addictive, equally hard to give up, and soon to be equally expensive.
At least a cigarette and its wrappings are mostly biodegradable if unsightly in the process however archeologists will be excavating vape components in a thousand years.
There is no reason to change one bad habit with another one. That is the comparison between ICE and EV in my opinion.
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I'm all for this as a father to a teenage girl who started vaping at 15 because lots of dodgy corner shops who will sell to underage kids, if the price is high it will definately stop a lot of yougsters from starting a habit they really shoud not at that age. She's now 18 and seems to have a permanent cough that I can only attribute to vaping.
Soldato
I think they handled vaping all wrong, no doubt making money was a higher priority.
Vaping should have been prescription only to help people who currently smoked to stop.
Vaping itself as health consequences.
Vaping should have been prescription only to help people who currently smoked to stop.
Vaping itself as health consequences.
Soldato
Sounds extreme levels, 10ml of e-liquid cots me only 50p to make, I guess for you it will be 10p if you buy nicotine in bulk and dont buy flavor.
Sorry for what's happened but that's the problem with bringing out things to replace others. Although it might seem ok we don't have enough evidence over time to say what effects they will have. My daughters partner was vaping and she said he had a persistent cough but he's a builders labourer so subject to dusty conditions sometimes
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How do you make your own? Do you just buy the carrier liquid and add flavours to suit your taste? To be honest the smell of some of them is so sickly sweet as to be off putting.
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Disclosure: I vape.
It's a sin tax which doesn't affect everyone, so it's an easy decision for government.
It's clearly the first step in increased revenue raising. Tobacco tax take has fallen over the last decade (around £1bn, in context of a doubling in duty over that time), and they need to make up that difference somehow.
It's a sin tax which doesn't affect everyone, so it's an easy decision for government.
It's clearly the first step in increased revenue raising. Tobacco tax take has fallen over the last decade (around £1bn, in context of a doubling in duty over that time), and they need to make up that difference somehow.
Yes it is but it would have happened regardless of whose in power. As you pointed out tobacco revenues down so they have to balance the books somehow. If vaping hadn't come in they would have slapped it on nicotine patches(pun intended) or other products to recoup the loss
Isn't that the way governments work?
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