As rookie I still am sure he knows what a gun looks like to be telling the man to drop it.
His years experience doesn't seem to matter in that regard.
Protect and Serve . . . yeah right !
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As rookie I still am sure he knows what a gun looks like to be telling the man to drop it.
His years experience doesn't seem to matter in that regard.
I'm sorry that does not even make sense.
I am trying to understand why you thought his -1yrs experience was relevant to him asking a man to drop a gun.
It was not him that fired any shots.
He either had it or was struggling with the officer to grab his.
He had one hand on it in with it in its holster.
if so then one can expect to get shot, if it turns out he didn't have a gun then they are murdering racist *******s
No.
Firstly, as I have mentioned. He has less than one years experience 'rookie' as the LAPD Chief Beck had mentioned.Kate Mather, Joel Rubin, Gale Holland, LA Times, Video of LAPD killing turns harsh light on skid row, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-skid-row-shooting-20150303-story.html#page=1 Accessed 03/03/2015
You are only as good as your weakest team member as an officer in that situation. You rely on each other. Then it is not unrealistic to label the 'rookie' officer as being the weakest team member and considering it was he whom called about a gun, which then lead to the escalation of his other team members shooting.Kate Mather, Joel Rubin, Gale Holland, LA Times, Video of LAPD killing turns harsh light on skid row, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-skid-row-shooting-20150303-story.html#page=1 Accessed 03/03/2015
The article says this, if you have read it.
It also mentions that the guns slide had been moved back and the magazine had become dislodged.Kate Mather, Joel Rubin, Gale Holland, LA Times, Video of LAPD killing turns harsh light on skid row, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-skid-row-shooting-20150303-story.html#page=1 Accessed 03/03/2015
Obviously; I am in doubt as to the extent the man attempted to grab the officers weapon, considering it was clipped in to his holster the outcome of this action was minimal. Understandably the 'rookie' officer shouted that the man was attempting to gain access to his weapon, but with the victim already partly restrained on the floor with four police officers it begs the question why they felt the need to shoot an unarmed, mental health suffering man whom was partly subdued.
There are also witnesses whom saw no movement for the officers weapon and the camera that the officers carry does not indicate this.Kate Mather, Joel Rubin, Gale Holland, LA Times, Video of LAPD killing turns harsh light on skid row, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-skid-row-shooting-20150303-story.html#page=1 Accessed 03/03/2015
Is it racist though to shoot more blacks than whites ?
Just because they shoot a black guy doesn't mean its because they don't like blacks.
their media plays a big part in linking blacks with crime, its almost as if they get paid for saying suspect is black.
Its a bit like sitting on a plane with a bearded turban wearing Arab who is saying allahukbar....you may feel a bit uneasy but thats the way the media has conditioned our minds.
if every time muslim was mentioned in the papers it didnt have islamist terrorist extremist or some other ist with it, you wouldnt really care so much.
I'm certainly sceptical about whether he had hold of the officer's gun, I certainly wouldn't believe it just because one of them was saying "drop the gun".
Here's a quick vid about Marcus Jeter, look into it if you haven't already but he was lucky to have not been murdered, let alone sent to prison for crimes he hadn't committed. No doubt the 'police are always right' brigade won't see anything wrong though.
Glad I don't live in America.
Here's a quick vid about Marcus Jeter, look into it if you haven't already but he was lucky to have not been murdered, let alone sent to prison for crimes he hadn't committed. No doubt the 'police are always right' brigade won't see anything wrong though.
Glad I don't live in America.
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How can you be so certain there is no evidence.
also why is his inexperience irrelevant ? if he is the only one calling for him to drop the gun and none of the others are, can you be sure he actually had hold of a gun ?
I have provided multiple sources claiming that the victim was suffering from mental health issues and had spent time being treated for them.
Firstly, the victim did not have a gun to drop, so stop with that rubbish.
Secondly, as I have explained that when you work as part of a team, the team is only as effective as its weakest link, which in this case is the 'rookie' office. The rookie officer that mentions the gun in the video (remember there are other officers asking the second victim to drop the baton). It is this escalation from the rookie officers use of the word gun, which lead to a victim whom is partly subdued by four officers and already on the floor being shot.
The quotes on the sources are all hear say and speculation.
He must have been doing something to the gun otherwise it would not have been tampered with.
The quotes attributed to the Chief of the LAPD Police, Chief Beck is just hear say and speculation?
It is perfectly possible it was a flailing arm as much as a conscious attempt to grab the weapon.
The entire thing is awful, tragic and totally avoidable. The Police were in control of the situation and had managed to get the victim to the ground with four officers holding him there. It is just sad that this was the outcome.
Stulid, I have no more time for you unfortunately, I have a research project to finish off on gender stereotypes during the period 1500-1650 (ish) and within that period looking at two particular prose.
While you seem to be cemented in your opinion, I hope you can be mature enough to accept other (in this case the majority of views in here) views and accept that the LAPD might have made a tragic mistake.
It is perfectly possible it was a flailing arm as much as a conscious attempt to grab the weapon.
The entire thing is awful, tragic and totally avoidable. The Police were in control of the situation and had managed to get the victim to the ground with four officers holding him there. It is just sad that this was the outcome.
Stulid, I have no more time for you unfortunately, I have a research project to finish off on gender stereotypes during the period 1500-1650 (ish) and within that period looking at two particular prose.
While you seem to be cemented in your opinion, I hope you can be mature enough to accept other (in this case the majority of views in here) views and accept that the LAPD might have made a tragic mistake.
He did have a gun as in the video with the chief at 1:28 he says,
"forcibly grabbed one of the officers holstered pistols".
So what was that about he didn't have a gun?
He touched a gun, but he didn't *have* it.
It doesnt take much for a holstered weapon to discharge, I have watched videos on ******** where people are messing around or even just placing a gun into a holster and its gone off wounding the guy in the leg etc (not sure if fatally or just a graze) but it happens.
Jesus ******* Christ if you cannot tell the difference. He did not have a physical weapon upon himself. He did not remove the weapon (either by accident or by conscious decision) the weapon from the holster.
i would like to think that a police officer would have the holster buckled closed the safety catch on. also i believe american police forces use glock's which have safety feature built into the trigger.
http://us.glock.com/technology/safe-action.
what i am getting at is there is no need to over react to a suspect resisting arrest and thinking he/she is going for the holstered gun.