Protein Shakes

anksta · 6 Apr 2007 at 12:50

Chong Warrior said:
It's probably 50% sugar. You sure it's not a weight gainer? No protein shake has 100g servings.

yeah, I said its called weight gain in my first post. Says Weight Gain in big letters and then Protein and Carb drink under that. That was the only one they had so I couldnt compare. Whats the difference?

Chong Warrior · 6 Apr 2007 at 13:00

anksta said:
yeah, I said its called weight gain in my first post. Says Weight Gain in big letters and then Protein and Carb drink under that. That was the only one they had so I couldnt compare. Whats the difference?

anksta said:
I bought this Protein shake the other day....

You sure you called it a weight gain?

Difference is protein shakes contain just protein and are low calorie so ideal for people looking to gain lean mass or keep muscle while trying to lose bodyfat.

Weight gainers are just that. They contain carbs and a little fat. The cheaper the weight gainer the worse they are as they just contain loads of sugar = FAT.

The best weight gainer you can make yourself. Buy some whey protein and oats, mix them together in milk and add some cocoa powder, magic

anksta · 6 Apr 2007 at 13:11

Chong Warrior said:
You sure you called it a weight gain?

anksta said:
I bought this Protein shake the other day, seems to be just called weight gain, chocolate flavour.

Quite sure. Anyway, straws and clutchin there.

How much is Whey Protein? Sounds like could be a lot of effort there, goin back to uni next week, could do with somethin that isnt gonna cause a load of mess everytime I make one.

Chong Warrior · 6 Apr 2007 at 15:02

Just pulling your leg

Best place is www.myprotein.co.uk

type w*w.sports-nutrition.net (obviously replace the * with a w) into the pricematcher and you'll get 10lb of whey delivered for £23

Type MP5500 code in on the order form for a further 5% off

That's 4.5kg of the highest quality whey protein deliverd to your door for under £22! :eek:

Then goto Tesco or whatever and get yourself some Oats and some cocoa powder, cheap as chips. Oats are about £0.37 for 1 kg for the value stuff or there's the much nicer organic oats @ £1.20 for 750g.

Perfect for mixing in a blender/ smoothie maker with milk for a very nutritious weight gainer drink. Far superior and far cheaper than anything you'll buy in the shops. Can also add some peanut butter for some good quality fats and a further boost to calories. Full fat milk and extra virgin olive oil are also good additions.

If you're one of those people who's fussy and gags on anything that's not as sweet as Coca-Cola then you might want to add a sweetener to it.

digitalwolf · 7 Apr 2007 at 13:37

Chong Warrior said:
Just pulling your leg

Best place is www.myprotein.co.uk

type w*w.sports-nutrition.net (obviously replace the * with a w) into the pricematcher and you'll get 10lb of whey delivered for £23

Type MP5500 code in on the order form for a further 5% off

That's 4.5kg of the highest quality whey protein deliverd to your door for under £22! Then goto Tesco or whatever and get yourself some Oats and some cocoa powder, cheap as chips. Oats are about £0.37 for 1 kg for the value stuff or there's the much nicer organic oats @ £1.20 for 750g.

Perfect for mixing in a blender/ smoothie maker with milk for a very nutritious weight gainer drink. Far superior and far cheaper than anything you'll buy in the shops. Can also add some peanut butter for some good quality fats and a further boost to calories. Full fat milk and extra virgin olive oil are also good additions.

If you're one of those people who's fussy and gags on anything that's not as sweet as Coca-Cola then you might want to add a sweetener to it.

Could somebody give me a link to about 1kg's worth of this whey please? I don't want to buy 4.5kg's worth and find out I do not like it.

What about the scoop & drinks bottle? I need these aswell?

Chong Warrior · 7 Apr 2007 at 13:42

http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/

There you go, the best value one is the Whey Concentrate 80 EURO but it's £9.50 for just 1kg plus £5 delivery. So you'll be paying £14 for 1 kilo. Why not just pay the extra £8 and get nearly 5x times as much?

£14 = 1kg
£22 = 4.5kg

Chong Warrior · 7 Apr 2007 at 13:45

It's unflavoured, how can you not like it? Just buy some nesquik or similar and flavour it yourself

Or if you decide to buy just 1kg then you can select any flavour you like and a sweetener in the options. It's only the special offers you can't add flavouring. The chocolate is very good!

Skull · 7 Apr 2007 at 15:09

The 4.5kg stuff is very good - PW I take it with water and sugar and its more than bearable. Mixed with milk and chocolate nesquik you CANNOT taste it at all - its like you're drinking a nesquik milkshake, its THAT good.

Styles · 7 Apr 2007 at 22:45

digitalwolf said:
Could somebody give me a link to about 1kg's worth of this whey please? I don't want to buy 4.5kg's worth and find out I do not like it.

What about the scoop & drinks bottle? I need these aswell?

Do what Chong says and buy 4.5KG. You will like it as it tastes of nothing, and even if you do pick up a slightly 'different' taste you will get completely used to it within a couple of days and you will never look back.

You don't drink this stuff because you like the taste, you are drinking it for the benifits it will provide you with.

Now get out there, buy the man sized tub, train hard and eat well.

Ste99 · 8 Apr 2007 at 00:05

Chong Warrior said:
Just pulling your leg

Best place is www.myprotein.co.uk

type w*w.sports-nutrition.net (obviously replace the * with a w) into the pricematcher and you'll get 10lb of whey delivered for £23

Type MP5500 code in on the order form for a further 5% off

Thanks for that

Clark Nova · 8 Apr 2007 at 01:31

I use a brand of whey protein called "Body Fortress" that I get from Holland and Barrett. It's nice enough although I've only tried the vanilla flavour. I put it in everything I eat, goes nicely in my porridge in the morning before I hit the gym and also I put it in fruit smoothies. I think I get through about four scoops per day and I can see that my hard work is paying off. When I used to go to the gym I just felt fitter. Since I started taking whey protein supplements I can see myself getting bigger much more quickly so I guess it's all worthwhile.

Can anybody advise me about Creatine, is it worth taking as well as protein supplements? Does it just help you with recovery and performance or does it help you to add lean muscle mass too? Any recommendations on what I should buy?

Thanks

The Mad Rapper · 8 Apr 2007 at 01:53

Chong Warrior said:
Just pulling your leg

Best place is www.myprotein.co.uk

type w*w.sports-nutrition.net (obviously replace the * with a w) into the pricematcher and you'll get 10lb of whey delivered for £23

Type MP5500 code in on the order form for a further 5% off

That's 4.5kg of the highest quality whey protein deliverd to your door for under £22! Then goto Tesco or whatever and get yourself some Oats and some cocoa powder, cheap as chips. Oats are about £0.37 for 1 kg for the value stuff or there's the much nicer organic oats @ £1.20 for 750g.

How does that protein compare to the Promax product from Maximuscle?

I've been reading most of the weight training threads but see few recommendations for Maximuscle. Why is that? I've always thought their stuff was good, if a little expensive.

Morba · 8 Apr 2007 at 02:03

The Mad Rapper said:
if a little expensive.

there is your answer, compared to buying in bulk from a reputable source, maximuscle is shockingly expensive.

The Mad Rapper · 8 Apr 2007 at 02:14

Morba said:
there is your answer, compared to buying in bulk from a reputable source, maximuscle is shockingly expensive.

But does it's quality and effectiveness justify it's cost?

A2Z · 8 Apr 2007 at 02:19

The Mad Rapper said:
But does it's quality and effectiveness justify it's cost?

lol erm, exactly what ingredient makes it higher quality and more effective?

Morba · 8 Apr 2007 at 02:22

The Mad Rapper said:
But does it's quality and effectiveness justify it's cost?

dont be trapped by the marketing of anything, ever.

digitalwolf · 8 Apr 2007 at 10:12

Chong Warrior said:
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/

There you go, the best value one is the Whey Concentrate 80 EURO but it's £9.50 for just 1kg plus £5 delivery. So you'll be paying £14 for 1 kilo. Why not just pay the extra £8 and get nearly 5x times as much?

£14 = 1kg
£22 = 4.5kg

It comes up for 4kg @ £41???

Can't seem to find 4.5kg.

MTA99 · 8 Apr 2007 at 11:26

digitalwolf said:
It comes up for 4kg @ £41???

Can't seem to find 4.5kg.

You need to read CW previous post.....

Go here: http://www.myprotein.co.uk/?page=online-price-matcher

enter www.sports-nutrition.net into the box

You should see 10lbs (4.5kgs) for £22.93 inc del.

Use MP5500 to get a further 5% off <---- You owe me one CW

MTA99 · 8 Apr 2007 at 11:34

The Mad Rapper said:
How does that protein compare to the Promax product from Maximuscle?

I've been reading most of the weight training threads but see few recommendations for Maximuscle. Why is that? I've always thought their stuff was good, if a little expensive.

I posted this in another thread.........

MTA99 in another thread said:
The main "beef" people have with maximuscle (and other supplement companies) is the outlandish marketing claims and the overpriced products. Notice that I've not said maximuscle (or and other supplement companies) products don't work, I'm sure there's plenty of people out there who find it works great (your buddy included), its just price/lb lean muscle is shocking.

Could you (or your buddy) get the same increase in lean muscle by just taking whey and creatine? IMHO most people would! For the elite few who are at the top of their game added ingredients like "Fenugreek extract" or "Patent pending Glutamine & Creatine absorption system" (whatever that is?!) will give them that final few percent to reach a goal.

When looking at any of these supps first thing you must always do, skip past all the guff at the top of the page and look at the ingredients - this is actually what you're gonna be pouring down your neck! Once you've worked out what's in there read the claims and see if it tallies with what you know about the basic ingredients.

Having said all that here's my opinions on the products you're looking at

Creatamax Extreme: Its creatine and glutamine with a simple carb *and* non simple carb based uptake mix. My suggestion, try creatine mono with a simple carb or if low carb is important try CEE.

Cyclone: Its whey, sugar, creatine, a selection of aminos and good fats. Seems a nice mix (altho I'd like to see fewer simple carbs and more complex) but is this the way to supplement? Everything in one hit? For me, its not.

I know there's a massive amount of MP pimping round here and other supplement companies just get beat down but lets look at the numbers and you should see why.

Creatamax Extreme from a well known online supplement store sells this for £40.49 for 1103gms or ~17 servings (1103g/2x33g). If you wanted the same ready made formula from MP you could get almost 10kgs of Creatine Plus Formula® (200 servings) or if you go down the CEE route ~2kgs which is enough for 1000 servings!!

Cyclone is £35.99 for 1.2kgs or 6 servings (1200g/3x60g) "You should be training with weights 3-4 times a week when using Cyclone, which should be taken every day." so there's not even a week supply in a tub! For the same money MP will sell you 4kgs of Hurricane XS Formula® giving 57 servings (4000g/1x70g), buy 7 servings get 50 free!!

Compare that to the £30 a month I spend on whey, bedtime formula and bits a pieces like CEE, taurine, green tea etc that last months!

As I said at the beginning, no one is really knocking maximuscle for not working as such, its just there are much better ways to spend your money! Most the experienced guys on here (me included) have thrown money at these supps only to realise later that its a waste of cash.

The Mad Rapper · 8 Apr 2007 at 12:36

MTA99 said:
I posted this in another thread.........

Quality post - repped