QLED vs OLED

[Bigpig]

Alright petal, untwist your panties.

For me there is no comparison when it comes to the contrasts obtainable with the ink blacks in oled. The brighter argument is a non starter because nobody wants a retina burning display, it isn't comfortable. As for gaming, how is it any better? A console produced hdr screen is not going to look any different between the two.

HDR isn't better on the qled. It's the same format, anything other is just marketing dross.

Petal lol I couldn't care less mate. I'm not the one bragging about DV/HDR performance on Oled.

I was just pointing out why Oled is not a clear winner. It's far from it. I prefer OLEDS for the same reasons you stated.

Also if you think HDR on LED TVs is just about pure brightness then you really need to go test a few TV's and read a few reviews.

 

[RoboCod]

Petal lol I couldn't care less mate. I'm not the one bragging about DV/HDR performance on Oled.

I was just pointing out why Oled is not a clear winner. It's far from it. I prefer OLEDS for the same reasons you stated.

Also if you think HDR on LED TVs is just about pure brightness then you really need to go test a few TV's and read a few reviews.

I didn't say it's about brightness. However, the only thing the qled has over the oled is brightness, which I've told you, isn't comfortable or required. Real blacks and contrast make the picture. But whatever, I'm done in this conversation, wouldn't want you having an aneurism proving you know your tech more than others.

 

[Bigpig]

I didn't say it's about brightness. However, the only thing the qled has over the oled is brightness, which I've told you, isn't comfortable or required. Real blacks and contrast make the picture. But whatever, I'm done in this conversation, wouldn't want you having an aneurism proving you know your tech more than others.

I'm no expert. I just don't have rose tinted glasses.
Cheerio

 

[Entai]

QLED > OLED for me every day of the week.

I do not need deep inky blacks in a pitch black room.

If I wanted cinema environment I would go to the cinema.

I want to watch TV normally in my front room with the curtains open with the light streaming in and still be able to see the TV.

Had a B7 for about a week, hated it as it was in no way bright enough for how we watch, so went and swapped for a Samsung KS9000 best decision ever made.

When it comes to time to replace in a year or so, it will be a QLED unless OLED up their brightness about ten times what it is now.


The point is every one is different, everyone's viewing habits are different, so you can never ever say one type of anything is better than all others, it is impossible to say OLED is always, in every situation, better than QLED or any other type, it is always horses for courses.

 

[RoboCod]

QLED > OLED for me every day of the week.

I do not need deep inky blacks in a pitch black room.

If I wanted cinema environment I would go to the cinema.

I want to watch TV normally in my front room with the curtains open with the light streaming in and still be able to see the TV.

Had a B7 for about a week, hated it as it was in no way bright enough for how we watch, so went and swapped for a Samsung KS9000 best decision ever made.

When it comes to time to replace in a year or so, it will be a QLED unless OLED up their brightness about ten times what it is now.


The point is every one is different, everyone's viewing habits are different, so you can never ever say one type of anything is better than all others, it is impossible to say OLED is always, in every situation, better than QLED or any other type, it is always horses for courses.

Interesting, I can set my OLED so bright that it hurts my eyes? The QLED annoyed me since the over brightness was too much and just bled into the greys (not black).

 

[Entai]

Interesting, I can set my OLED so bright that it hurts my eyes? The QLED annoyed me since the over brightness was too much and just bled into the greys (not black).

Can't say I have ever had eyes hurting from over brightness, on any TV I have ever had, or even going out in the brightest of sunshine I have never had eyes hurting, where friends have to put on sunglasses to make things comfortable I never have to, as I say every one is different.

 

[Spook187]

What's all the rubbish talk about OLED brightness, not a thing wrong with it even in light rooms, I have the LG C8 amazing television.

 

[iamtheoneneo]

QLED > OLED for me every day of the week.

I do not need deep inky blacks in a pitch black room.

So I guess all those reviewers over the last 10 years that made their bread and butter on in depth discussions and tests with tv black levels were just wrong?

For some reason now it's a format battle between qled and oled that were just going to ignore what has been the biggest factors in TVs since the move to LCD? I don't by it and stinks of gatekeeping to me.

 

[jpaul]

in depth discussions and tests with tv black levels were just wrong?

did you read all his post ?

I want to watch TV normally in my front room with the curtains open with the light streaming in and still be able to see the TV.

... within the eyes limited <1:1000 contrast range you cannot exploit the blacks on an oled in high ambiant light qled

even the discourse

The QLED annoyed me since the over brightness was too much and just bled into the greys (not black)

the eye is naturally 'bloomed' itself, so you can't distinguish details around a really bright light, so there is a bit of a catch22 there with a qled offering higher peaks..
but only a few uhd disks eg superman are mastetered at high nits too.

...it would be good to know manufacturing cost and margin on the two technologies ... how much are we played on the marketting.

 

[Entai]

What's all the rubbish talk about OLED brightness, not a thing wrong with it even in light rooms, I have the LG C8 amazing television.

Perhaps the C8 is a far better TV than the B7 I had.

The B7 was, for what we wanted to watch, and mainly for the situation in which we wanted to watch, far too dark to see most things clearly, and when you got to a dark section of movie you might as well have turned the TV off for all that you could see.

The KS9000 though and the darkest parts of any movie are perfectly clearly seen even with sunlight through our front windows reflecting straight off the screen.

 

[Nexus18]

Local and even full array dimming just isn't the same for HDR imo. Nothing can touch individual sub emissive pixel technology, best part is also not having to rely on HDR content to get those "true" blacks and again, not having to put up with halo'ing etc.

Personally I can still notice the black levels even in bright conditions, heck I can even notice it on mobile phone screens in sunlight too.

No issues with making out the TV in my room (which has a massive window and gets the sun for the entire day, set your TV up properly with regards to positioning and maybe even invest in decent curtains/blackout blinds to help mitigate this too)

 

[kinetic747]

Perhaps the C8 is a far better TV than the B7 I had.

The B7 was, for what we wanted to watch, and mainly for the situation in which we wanted to watch, far too dark to see most things clearly, and when you got to a dark section of movie you might as well have turned the TV off for all that you could see.

The KS9000 though and the darkest parts of any movie are perfectly clearly seen even with sunlight through our front windows reflecting straight off the screen.

My B7 is in a south facing room with velux rooflights and I've never had any issue whatsoever seeing what's on the screen. I live in the NW of England so sunshine is scarce but even so, I've a feeling you had a dud or it wasn't set up correctly. I can't compare with a QLED as I've never owned one but I'm extremely happy with the B7.

 

[tyler_jrb]

Perhaps the C8 is a far better TV than the B7 I had.

The B7 was, for what we wanted to watch, and mainly for the situation in which we wanted to watch, far too dark to see most things clearly, and when you got to a dark section of movie you might as well have turned the TV off for all that you could see.

The KS9000 though and the darkest parts of any movie are perfectly clearly seen even with sunlight through our front windows reflecting straight off the screen.

I’ve had a B7 and never had any issues like that. Was brighter than any of the LED TVs I have had in the past.

I suspect it just wasn’t quite set up right for bright room viewing.

I’ve had a QLED before and was never happy with the brightness it just starts to go so bright it washes out the image for me.

OLED has been amazing and I would never go back to anything else. Love my current E8, brighter than last years oleds and still more than bright enough to hurt your eyes if you wanted.

 

[RoboCod]

Perhaps the C8 is a far better TV than the B7 I had.

The B7 was, for what we wanted to watch, and mainly for the situation in which we wanted to watch, far too dark to see most things clearly, and when you got to a dark section of movie you might as well have turned the TV off for all that you could see.

The KS9000 though and the darkest parts of any movie are perfectly clearly seen even with sunlight through our front windows reflecting straight off the screen.

Wow, almost sounds like it was always in eco mode or something? I have two large windows and a completely white room. Whether the curtains are open or closed, the picture is clear, never any issue of being able to see it. I just flick between "Bright room" and "dark room" setting accordingly.

 

[jpaul]

I'll repost this ... so you need the right physical media too (probbaly not netflix ?) to warrant high brightness

[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Oblivion : 0.005 à 1 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray La 5eme Vague : 0 à 1 100 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Batman vs Superman : 0.005 à 4 000 nits !
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Man of Steel : 0.005 à 4 000 nits !
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Dead Pool : 0 à 1 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Seul sur Mars : 0 à 1 100 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray PAN : 0.005 à 4 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray The Revenant : 0 à 1 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Life of Pi : aucune info sur la gamme dynamique HD (étrange !)
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Indépendance Day (le vrai) : 0 à 1 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Chappie : 0.005 à 4 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Au Cœur de l’Océan : 0.005 à 4 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Ender’s Games : 0.005 à 4 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Exodus : 0 à 1 100 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Labyrinth : 0 à 1 100 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Salt : 0.005 à 4 000 nits
[*]Ultra HD Blu-ray Mad Max – Fury Road : 0.005 à 4 000 nits

 

[mmj_uk]

OLED is undoubtedly better for picture quality but imo if you can get an LCD that offers a consistent picture with semi-decent blacks it's much better than having to worry about retention from excessive gaming etc.

Another thing that would worry me about OLED is that HDR is probably going to have a significant impact on lifespan with wear levelling.

 

[chaparral]

What's all the rubbish talk about OLED brightness, not a thing wrong with it even in light rooms, I have the LG C8 amazing television.

I had to turn the brightness down on my OLED quiet a few times as being so bright it hurts my eyes..
I sure see no reason for needing a brighter TV unless I want to blind myself

But I do watch TV in a darken room..

 

[utajoker]

i was going to start trawling through this thread as i'm now in the market for a new tv but it seems to be a fanboy war

 

[hornetstinger]

I had to turn the brightness down on my OLED quiet a few times as being so bright it hurts my eyes..
I sure see no reason for needing a brighter TV unless I want to blind myself

But I do watch TV in a darken room..

Also set backlight. On a LCD you have

Contrast - white level
Brightness - black level
Backlight - amount of lumen power on the ccfl or led lights

 

[Poneros]

i was going to start trawling through this thread as i'm now in the market for a new tv but it seems to be a fanboy war

There's always people willing to help without fanboying, if you ask.