Quad Core PC Vs Xbox 360?

hmm tbh depends on the person. If you want something that you want to pick up and play, or play with some mates aound the telly from a sofa the xbox wins hands down. If you want higher gfx, more mods then pc wins hands down.

The 360 gfx are more then good enough tbh, sure higher end pc's look much better, but tbh if your playing games for just gfx your as mad as the mad hatter. Gears of war for example, the gfx were more then good enough to play and i have yet to see anything on pc that can match gears of war on co-op. Also all the games are especially made for the xbox so its unlikely you will have any problems running any game, same does not apply for pc where developers have to make sure their products work with a wider range of machine specs.

The pc is more geared to one person i.e. cant really have mates over and play on the pc together (unless you have a network setup ;) ). If your friends have pc's though you could just as easily play online. Also pc have more choice in a lot of games where other users create mods for the games, oblivion for example was brilliant on 360, but it couldnt compare to the pc version as the amount of mods it have was mind blowing.

So overall depends on the person and what he wants to do :confused:

*i didn't include the pc's other abilities as op just asked about games
**the above is my opinion and not fact........if you dont like it :p
 
its funny, stalker was the worst game i've had in 4-5 years for crashing and not working as well as it should. but then again, about 20 mins after i had it, i had it working perfectly with no crashing, on vista 64 bit which was its weakest point. so boohoo really.

games not working on pc's, well, i might be one of a few people, but a few of us never seem to have problems with software.

as for price, any pc you have, and you all have them, buy a £170 8800gts and you have a more powerful gaming rig than the xbox 360, simple, no arguments. there is more power there. the other no arguments thing is, hardware or not, it can only render what code its given. same game will do very very VERY similar stuff on different hardware at the same settings. pc hardware tends to be "overpowered" at first, and often for a long time. but is that a problem, no not really, because almost any game will run at similar quality to a 360 right now on a x1950xt, or a pro for £70-100, and in a year, the current crop of stuff will run more than fine with high detail looking WAY better than a 360 as the code will have moved on by then, on still a £100 card.

with consoles, you get, on release, a 18month to 2 year push, very very big push for software. but most of the big releases, and what i class as the real games, are out on pc too. i like my games as complex, interesting and good as possible. 90% of the triple a titles fall in that category, alan wake, bioshock, ut3, errm, hl2 and future ep's. errm, the ut3 mmorpg type thingy. those are the only games i would maybe theoretically get for the 360. i'll be able to get all of those on the PC. the other titles tend to be cheaper, crapper, less playable, more pick up and play and not really care that its crap type games. superman, spider man 52, tennis game xyz, nhl 462, pro evo 562(if we change the length of passes, change one move, and give them new names they'll go mad over the same freaking game, no really they will :o ). i wouldn't buy any of them for a console, and so i don't care if they are out on the pc, and most of them are anyway, for less money.

games are ALL cheaper on the PC, buy 10 games and you've probo spent at least £100 more on the console version :o , how many games will you play over the 4-5 year life span of a console, 30-50, 60? how much more is that non upgradeable console costing you now ;)


anyway, as i was rambling, i mean saying, theres a 18month to 2 year push where most big games are console first/same time as PC and look pretty damn good for the first year, and only a little worse for the 2nd year. but years 2 through 5, the BIG games, with way better detail, better physics, better online play, more innovation, way better graphics are ALL on the PC. frankly, games now ported over to pc, some run like poo but they look good. but games ported from the last 3 years of ps2/xbox pc users were horrified with low res, horrific ports, terrible graphics. in 2 years ports will simply look crap on pc's, because they are. cough, halo 2, cough.

so in a consoles life span it can simply match a MID end pc, while costing more, but only for the first 2 years max, then its behind, then way behind, the so far beyond obsolete pc users spit on ports that they are useless.

now gears of war looks great, subjectively. its got a pretty damn short draw distance to help up the detail close. its effective, its nice, but pc games now , some at least, can give better overall looks because the enviroment is better. its also a newish engine at a time when developement is in the console 2 years. if all that effort was spent making a pc game, they would look better now.

of course everyone plays differently, i play multiplayer games online, i play single player games on my own. don't want to play co-op, gears i think had that all to consoley feel of being led around on a leash and being told when to use which weapons as i couldn't possibly choose for myself, or work out a single puzzel for myself. "hey you, look at this gun here, you can use it in 2 seconds if you want, probo a really big guy that will die if you use this round that corner, lucky ain't it" kinda thing which i despise. found the game short, easy, very basic. looked fantastic, yes, story very obviously skipped a chapter , yup.

oh, and, i don't want autoaim, ever. mouse pawns controller, every time.


EDIT:-, clearly clearly ordered too much mountain dew, and they clearly put too much caffeine in it :p
 
pumaz said:
but the XBOX 360 will have many more games than the PC and they will look stunning.
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It will? The PC has games as far back as 2004 that challenge most 360 games in visuals. (Half Life 2 anyone?)

PC has the most games of any system, most 360 games come to PC too. ;)
 
While a quad core dx10 pc would be amazing (especially with games like Bioshock and Crysis) the chances are the xbox would out live the graphics card. A year or so down the line you'd need to upgrade your graphics card where as the xbox devs will have to keep doing new things with the existing hardware (a good thing imho).

All that aside, if you've got the money to invest in the PC then stick with it, just remember it's expensive.

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Also if you're going for a PC best to go with 4 gb. Makes more sense than trying to find a match later on down the line.
 
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It will? The PC has games as far back as 2004 that challenge most 360 games in visuals. (Half Life 2 anyone?)

PC has the most games of any system, most 360 games come to PC too. ;)
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I was talking about games that have come and are comming out since the 360, wouldn't be fair to bring the PC's 20+ years of back catalogue games in as the 360's only been around a couple of years.

I wouldn't say Half Life 2 is better Visualy than say Gears of War and tbh i can't think of any games out on the PC that challange the 360 Visualy.

PC does have more games than the 360 i agree but it's new games that drive a system and there are more games coming out for the 360 and it's actually turning the other way round, games are being ported from 360 to PC.

It could be that by the time the 360 starts to look dated against the PC Microsoft will bring out the 720 and this will still be cheaper than the constant upgrading of a PC, after all there wasn't that bigger gap between XBOX and XBOX 360 and as long as the 720 was backwardly compatible with the 360 i for one would be happy.
 
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pumaz said:
I wouldn't say Half Life 2 is better Visualy than say Gears of War and tbh i can't think of any games out on the PC that challange the 360 Visualy.
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Not exactly better than Gears no but it's better than the majority of 360 games.

PC games that challenge the 360, hmm;

BioShock, Oblivion, Overlord, Half Life 2 (Even more so with Cinematic mod), S.T.A.L.K.E.R, DiRT, Company Of Heroes, ET: Quake Wars.

Sure there's more but all of them are superior to the console versions if applicable.
 
Lamers please sort it out

Posting on my bro's account as I ain't got one yet. :(

Anyhow You Just can't compare consoles to a PC due to these reasons:-
1. More Control with mouse and keyboard.
2. More powerful Hardware coming out for the PC All the Time.
3. PC has much Higher res
4. PC Games are cheaper
5. By the time the next console generation comes out you'll be able to build a better PC for cheaper price



Sorry to burst your bubble console lovers but the fact is a PC rules! :p

However I will say this the only console I would even consider buying is a wii coz at the end o the day It's adifferent kind of gaming style & platform :D

Cheers $qu!ff
 
Apologies

Sorry bout my brother but he be a bit of a dick when it comes down to PC vs Consoles. A beating will be issued and he won't bother you again. That is until he gets his own account.

Sorry again

MolDog
 
In my view, and the reasons i use both:

360:
Ease of Use and Inexpensive
Xbox Live
360 Exclusives like mass effect, you cant say that doesnt look good.
Media Centre Extention
Excellent Controller
Possibly HDDVD, but i havent bought into hd formats yet.

PC:
Mods/ Custom Content (360 has some but no where near PC level obviously)
Greater fine detail in some games like oblivion
Superior control on RTS Games
Superior control on most* First person shooters (although ive grown to like the 360 controller for this too)
Other functionality eg. Video encoding and Flash which i do a lot of.
Browsing overclockers!

Oh and for the record, the 360 CAN render at 1080p, just most games dont, but take a look on the back of Virtua Tennis and Bioshock and you'll see certain games do. You can always use 1080p for hddvd i guess. I used to be hardcore PC gamer only, hadnt touched a console since the early days of PS2 (2000-2001), but since purchasing a 360 ive found it to be an excellent bit of kit and would advise most PC gamers to do the same purely for the fact of exclusives.
 
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Ridiculous thread. That's like asking how much faster is the 486DX2-66 compared to my aging 386SX (hardware-wise of course).

If you have the money, get a PC. You can do far more with it and upgrade at your leisure, money allowing of course.

If you want ease of use, quick multiplayer setup, fiddly IMing (unless you have a keyboard) and a wealth of games which require 0 configuration, get an xbox360.

I own a top-notch PC and a xbox 360. Most days I much prefer multiplayer via xbox live. Just sit down on my bed, press a few buttons and I'm playing Rainbow Six multiplayer within minutes. Sometimes I just don't feel like bothering with a PC because I work with them EVERY day during the working week.

The xbox 360 is still an impressive bit of kit and will be for many years to come.
 
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You guys are worse than the console lot! :eek:

Neither version of the game has locked FPS as the 360 version allows you to toggle vsync.
 
pumaz said:
I have a decent rig (sig) and a 360 and there's a lot more to look forward to on the 360. It's gonna be interesting to see what hapens to the PC as a games platform if and when games dry to a trickle after all it's the games that drive expensive hardware buying.
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Because Crysis, World in Conflict, Medieval 2 Expansion, UT 3, Gears of War on PC, Spore, Empire Total War, Warhammer Online etc are totally NOT worth looking foeward to...
What are 360 owners looking forward to?
Mass Effect? Ok it does look stunning, but it is extremely likely that it will come to PC - someone at PC gamer said they have it on "very good authority" (i.e from the developers) that it WILL come to PC

Halo 3? Ok it looks ok, but not as good as Crysis, and it will probably come out on PC anyway - the other 2 have.

Assasin's Creed? Coming out on PC

Call of Duty 4? Coming out on PC.

Can you name me another really incredible exclusive, that ISN't coming to PC and which does not have an equally good PC game coming out to match it?
 
pointless thread :P

PC Gaming changes with every new game release, xbox games remain static with the same gaming power it was born with.
;)

Everyone knows to be a PC gamer you cant have the same machine for more than 2 year(2 years max) so it is costly, but the games are more state of the art as the PC evolves almost every 6 months to a year rather than the 3 to 5 years console life time.

Worse thread ever, only attracts fan boys :)
 
Cannaton said:
In my view, and the reasons i use both:

360:
Ease of Use and Inexpensive
Xbox Live
360 Exclusives like mass effect, you cant say that doesnt look good.
Media Centre Extention
Excellent Controller
Possibly HDDVD, but i havent bought into hd formats yet.

PC:
Mods/ Custom Content (360 has some but no where near PC level obviously)
Greater fine detail in some games like oblivion
Superior control on RTS Games
Superior control on most* First person shooters (although ive grown to like the 360 controller for this too)
Other functionality eg. Video encoding and Flash which i do a lot of.
Browsing overclockers!

Oh and for the record, the 360 CAN render at 1080p, just most games dont, but take a look on the back of Virtua Tennis and Bioshock and you'll see certain games do. You can always use 1080p for hddvd i guess. I used to be hardcore PC gamer only, hadnt touched a console since the early days of PS2 (2000-2001), but since purchasing a 360 ive found it to be an excellent bit of kit and would advise most PC gamers to do the same purely for the fact of exclusives.
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only reply in this thread that really makes sense. I agree completely.
 
Cannaton said:
Xbox Live
360 Exclusives like mass effect, you cant say that doesnt look good.
Media Centre Extention
Excellent Controller
Possibly HDDVD, but i havent bought into hd formats yet.
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The PC also has (free) online gaming, exclusive titles, far superior media centre functions, can use gamepads (including Xbox 360 ones), and can use HD formats. :confused:
 
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That wasnt my point, the point of stating xbox live is the whole way it makes online play with friends an absolute breeze, and i know the PC has exclusives thats why i stated i use both. With regards to media sharing, I understand many people use HTPCs, however most PC gamers will use their PC at a desk and therefore it may be impractical to connect it to a TV setup, therefore I was stating the 360 can be a useful media centre extender, accessing content on a PC in a different room.
 
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THE CPU's in both the Xbox 360 and PS3 look good on paper, but they are not as good as our latest PC CPU's although hard to compair.

Also the GPU's of both were just ahead of PC GPU's at launch as they were like revised special editions, this was at time PC's had 7800GTX, since then 7900GTX and 8800GTX/Ultra arrived so consoles again are left behind esp as now we are touching on DX10.

Consoles are STATIC hardware, they all have same parts, so games Dev's can squeeze every last bit of raw power out them and games are more optimised.

This is hard for PC game Dev's as of different hardware like CPU's, GPU's MOBO Chipsets, then added factor of software drivers for all different hardware etc, etc.
 
tsinc80697 said:
jesus this place gets worse every day :p I thought the GD jokes were getting bad, but that was just :rolleyes:
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Smashing :)

Don't forget the XBox (when it's not boiling itself alive) is cheap compared to that PC spec!
 
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