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The sad thing is the new EQL season only has 20 clans which is the lowest it has ever been. There's been a bit of a break from clan scene over the past year due to running a few draft tournaments which were very well received and gave more competitive games, but a side-effect was it largely killed off the practice scene so the majority of clans were inactive as people focussed on the draft league. Although perhaps that would have happened anyway as some players started to get a bit disillusioned with lack of competitiveness at the top end of div1 (essentially 2 or 3 'superclans' that were too good for everyone else in the division).
 
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The sad thing is the new EQL season only has 20 clans which is the lowest it has ever been. There's been a bit of a break from clan scene over the past year due to running a few draft tournaments which were very well received and gave more competitive games, but a side-effect was it largely killed off the practice scene so the majority of clans were inactive as people focussed on the draft league. Although perhaps that would have happened anyway as some players started to get a bit disillusioned with lack of competitiveness at the top end of div1 (essentially 2 or 3 'superclans' that were too good for everyone else in the division).
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I just took a look and there are no UK clans. Such a shame. If there was ever a "seniors" league like in tennis then I'd be tempted to see if Rv or CoG would be interested in taking part.
 
QW scene has been 'European' for about 10 years now, there are/have been very few single nation clans outside of perhaps Sweden and Finland where the majority of players come from. It's an extremely integrated community in that regard, helped by the fact we have a widespread automated network of proxy rerouting (afaik no other FPS has this), exceptional netcode and client side prediction meaning that finding servers to suit everyone is no problem. It's not like the old days where you needed to stick together for ping reasons etc; the last time I played in a 'UK' clan was 2002.

Mob of Oddballs are UK-ish, they have 2 UK players and one Aussie who has lived here for a few years, plus an Irishman and two portuguese who tend to play on UK servers a fair bit for ping reasons.
 
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QW scene has been 'European' for about 10 years now, there are/have been very few single nation clans outside of perhaps Sweden and Finland where the majority of players come from. It's an extremely integrated community in that regard, helped by the fact we have a widespread automated network of proxy rerouting (afaik no other FPS has this), exceptional netcode and client side prediction meaning that finding servers to suit everyone is no problem.

Mob of Oddballs are UK-ish, they have 2 UK players and one Aussie who has lived here for a few years, plus an Irishman and two portuguese who tend to play on UK servers a fair bit for ping reasons.
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I was about to post a similar thing, except for a slightly different reason in Quake 2. Our "UK" clan in Quake 2 eventually just had people from all over Europe when broadband became mainstream, as the "ping" issue was the main thing that originally prevented it. With the possible exception of some Scandinavian servers everyone had <40ish ping all over NL, BE, DE, FR, IT, UK etc... I don't know of any true UK clans in the Q2 Instagib cups up until the scene eventually died out.
 
To be honest it isn't really something people think about any more, what nationality a clan is, apart from some extremes (North American, Russian). The majority of games take place in Denmark where nearly everyone pings under 40, and people talk English on voice, unless they are a team of 4x Swedes or something.

Sure, I do miss the days of the UKCL league having 6 divisions etc, but the game is so much more refined now, playing in Denmark with foreign players is a lot 'purer' in terms of competition than playing in the UK ever was, and for some reason a lot of UK clans never really had the attitude for a seriously hardcore game like QW.
 
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