Queen Elizabeth II has passed away - keep posts civil and respectful

Dis86 · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:07

Kenai said:
A Queen Consort is obviously different to a Queen Regnant (or other types of Queen) but to me is 'a queen' nonetheless.

They're very different. The police and armed forces for example swear their oath only to the King/Queen. Not their spouses.

Feek · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:07

The_One said:
prince philip could have been king consort if the royals had wanted him to be and he would have worn a crown

*sigh*

Kenai · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:09

Dis86 said:
They're very different. The police and armed forces for example swear their oath only to the King/Queen. Not their spouses.

Yes, different but still 'a queen'. Just a different type of queen to the one we've been used to for so long.

Dis86 · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:12

Kenai said:
Yes, different but still 'a queen'. Just a different type of queen to the one we've been used to for so long.

We're back to the fabulous Elton John again here.

Harlequin · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:16

Its Prince Consort not King Consort, as neither Philip nor Albert were crowned. However Philip chose not to use Prince Consort and was forever known as Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh. He firmly rejected Winston Churchill when the PM made the suggestion of the change of title.

teenwolf · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:16

But not the QUEEN

Minusorange · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:16

Dis86 said:
When King Edward VIII abdicated on 11 December the same year

Why do we call him King Edward VIII when he abidicated and gave up his title ?

Dis86 · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:18

Minusorange said:
Why do we call him King Edward VIII when he abidicated and gave up his title ?

Because that was still his royal title.

cheesefest · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:18

200sols said:
When they were sweating in Westminster Abbey you could really see how hard that was for them.

Good job the funeral wasn’t in 37c heat

Kenai · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:22

Dis86 said:
We're back to the fabulous Elton John again here.

Queen Regnant, Queen Consort, Queen Dowager, Queen Regent (and perhaps also Queen Mother) are, AFAIK, all recognised types of queen in the British royal system.

I'm not sure why people have latched onto the idea that not all of them are queens. Not 'The Queen', sure, but they're all still 'a queen' and titled as such.

Minusorange · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:23

Dis86 said:
Because that was still his royal title.

But he gave it up, so he shouldn't be called King, because he's not a King, he's just Edward formerly known as King VIII

Dis86 · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:23

Kenai said:
Queen Regnant, Queen Consort, Queen Dowager, Queen Regent (and perhaps also Queen Mother) are, AFAIK, all recognised types of queen in the British royal system.

I'm not sure why people have latched onto the idea that not all of them are queens. Not 'The Queen', sure, but they're all still 'a queen' and titled as such.

They are all very very different. That difference is very important.

Dis86 · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:23

Minusorange said:
But he gave it up, so he shouldn't be called King, because he's not a King, he's just Edward formerly known as King VIII

It's It's same as when a US president is no longer president. They're still President xyz

Kenai · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:24

Dis86 said:
They are all very very different. That difference is very important.

Absolutely agree but that difference doesn't make them not queens at all, it makes them a different type of queen.

ThriceNightly · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:26

cheesefest said:
Good job the funeral wasn’t in 37c heat

Lucky with the weather today perfect conditions....at one point got thinking "glad not raining" as various military layed flags down on the floor in honour of the Queens coffin passing.

cheesefest · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:29

Queen Elizabeth II became Queen via blood. Camilla became Queen Consort due to marriage.

This is why William III and Mary II reigned together

William III and Mary II : Stuart King and Queen : Tudor and Stuart History

www.tudorsandstuarts.com

Harlequin · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:30

Minusorange said:
Why do we call him King Edward VIII when he abidicated and gave up his title ?

He became known as the Duke of Windsor after his abdication; a political choice by his younger brother, so Edward couldn't stand for election for the House of Commons as a he was a noble, nor to the House of Lords as only 2 Dukes can vote (and 24 of the 31 can actually enter the building to drink in the bar - the Duke of Windsor couldnt even do that). The title became extinct when Edward died and had no heir.

tlrBeta · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:31

cheesefest said:
The pallbearers are the heroes of today. Need to congratulate them for their precise, professional and faultless work.

Agreed, so much pressure.

Im sure i read somewhere they were flown back from active duty. Its been the same set of men throughout.

Blackjack Davy · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:32

Minusorange said:
Why do we call him King Edward VIII when he abidicated and gave up his title ?

For the same reason King Charles is called King Charles even though he isn't crowned yet he became king after the death of the previous sovereign. Abdication means resigning his position as (uncrowned) king.

The_One · 19 Sep 2022 at 20:33

tlrBeta said:
Agreed, so much pressure.

Im sure i read somewhere they were flown back from active duty. Its been the same set of men throughout.

yeah they were on operations in iraq