Quest 2 Virtual Desktop Performance Thread

Cavallino · 20 Jan 2021 at 17:51

Some comments seem to indicate its improved things but not working fully.
I dont think it will fix my issue, but lets give it a try.

Cavallino · 20 Jan 2021 at 18:17

Nope... so pretty certain it must be network related and the onboard hotspot issue.
Router is on its way tomorrow, lets see!

ElliorR · 20 Jan 2021 at 19:19

This thread reminds me of the hoops I used to jump through to get enough memory to run DOS games. Sometimes a different DOS boot up floppy for each game. Those were the days and thank christ they’re gone.

Cavallino · 20 Jan 2021 at 19:22

ElliorR said:
This thread reminds me of the hoops I used to jump through to get enough memory to run DOS games. Sometimes a different DOS boot up floppy for each game. Those were the days and thank christ they’re gone.

Conventional memory and.... EMS memory and all that...

I personally would take that over this VR stuff any day

Unseul · 20 Jan 2021 at 19:23

ElliorR said:
This thread reminds me of the hoops I used to jump through to get enough memory to run DOS games. Sometimes a different DOS boot up floppy for each game. Those were the days and thank christ they’re gone.

I remember that

, writing individual .ini files to disable the mouse/sound etc trying to eek out every last little bit of performance

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mattpj · 21 Jan 2021 at 15:14

Unseul said:
I remember that , writing individual .ini files to disable the mouse/sound etc trying to eek out every last little bit of performance .

I'm glad those days are over to be honest. There was something to the whole !eureka! of getting the right batch file sorted and then seeing your work be rewarded. Definitely prefer how much more plug and play things are now. I remember when using a gamepad or "controller" meant there was zero compatibility with any games and you had to set everything up etc.

Setting up the Virtual Desktop and getting it right has been a pain though worth it. Really does make you realise how spoiled we are in comparison to 20 years ago or soooooo.

Unseul · 21 Jan 2021 at 15:23

mattpj said:
I'm glad those days are over to be honest. There was something to the whole !eureka! of getting the right batch file sorted and then seeing your work be rewarded. Definitely prefer how much more plug and play things are now. I remember when using a gamepad or "controller" meant there was zero compatibility with any games and you had to set everything up etc.

Setting up the Virtual Desktop and getting it right has been a pain though worth it. Really does make you realise how spoiled we are in comparison to 20 years ago or soooooo.

Or so is generous... more like 25+ I mean, windows 95 is when it all pretty much changed, getting off of dos+windows 3.11 (for workgroups no less).

I do like the more plug and play nature, but still find myself trying to close all unnecessary software before playing a game etc.

Cavallino · 21 Jan 2021 at 19:12

Folks so I got the AX1800 TP LInk....

happy to say that the problems I was having before. GONE! Works super smooth. Very happy chappy.

Just one point.
I have the Router now in "AP" mode directly connected to the back of my PC into a separate network port.
My other port is for the internet.
But my Oculus is not seeing the internet and neither AX1800...

How do i get the AX1800 to see the internet and therefore the Oculus.

(The reason is I may want to play internet games wireless).
Or do I need to plug the AX1800 DIRECTLY into the router as well as into the PC?

Hope that made sense!

Thanks a million folks. This is what I love about OCUK

melmac · 21 Jan 2021 at 21:57

Cavallino said:
(The reason is I may want to play internet games wireless).
Or do I need to plug the AX1800 DIRECTLY into the router as well as into the PC?

You need to connect both your Router and your PC to the Dedicated AP for the Quest 2 and your PC to have internet access.

Cavallino · 21 Jan 2021 at 23:42

Ah really? Noway to bind both ethernet ports I guess? Ok I will try what you recommended, thanks melmac (again!!)

melmac · 22 Jan 2021 at 00:05

Cavallino said:
Ah really? Noway to bind both ethernet ports I guess? Ok I will try what you recommended, thanks melmac (again!!)

There is, but it's only messing, like you did with the wireles PCIe card. You are making your PC do something that a router/access point is built for.

Cavallino · 22 Jan 2021 at 00:26

Got it.
Have it all setup now. Works beautifully

Incidentally, I remember some people who were playing pokerstars vr using the finger gesture, but when I go into the game it automatically asks me to pick up the controllers... any idea why?

melmac · 22 Jan 2021 at 00:36

No idea man, I don't play Pokerstars VR. All I can think of is are you using the Quest version or the PC version? Maybe the PC version doesn't have hand tracking and you would need to use the Quest version. I am presuming that you have hand tracking enabled on your Quest 2?

After that, I am fresh out of ideas!!

Cavallino · 22 Jan 2021 at 01:28

Yep its the quest version I was using with hand tracking on. Nevermind thanks bud.

This router is rock solid, 1200mbit output, never drops below.

Ive just come across another thing. Im not sure if this is synonymous with VR headtracking or not but...

Has anyone noticed that in first person games, if you look at the floor and walk (physically walk - not ingame walk with controller) that its not as smooth in movement? A little jumpy/jittery if you like? (not fps drop just not a smooth motion...)

I tried the Oculus Link cable and can confirm it is smoother when doing the above...

hyperseven · 22 Jan 2021 at 19:20

new 118.9 beta out

• Added support for AMD drivers 21.x (you must upgrade to those if you have an AMD GPU)
• Added recommended GPU next to the VR Graphics Quality options

linky

Johnpmc35 · 23 Jan 2021 at 14:44

Hi, I'm for looking for some advice on how to lower my latency.

GPU/CPU: 1080ti, I7 7700k @ 4.8
Router: Virgin super hub 3
VD Reported Speed: 866 Mbps
VD Streaming Settings: Quality - Medium, FPS - 90, Bitrate - auto (but have tried various values here & nothing helps me get below 40ms latency), Sliced Encoding - On
VD Codec: H.264
Other Settings: Enabled 'Boost Clocks' in advance settings in VD. Nvidia ultra low latency mode.

I have my router in the living room & my pc in the downstairs office. The pc is connect to a Deco M5 puck (I have set the M5 to AP mode) by ethernet & the broadband speed test is showing 108 mbps download speed, this is the same as from the main router.

Within the super hub settings, I have separated out the 2.4ghz from the 5ghz, giving them each their own SSID and made sure nothing is running on the 5ghz, apart from the pc & the quest 2.

The vd overlay is showing my network is around 30ms & I'm getting an in game latency which fluctuates from 40 to 60. I've been testing using the lab archery & whilst playable, there is a noticeable delay, which is not ideal.

I have a lot of hubs (hive, hue etc) plug directly into the router via ethernet but I don't think this should matter?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

melmac · 23 Jan 2021 at 14:59

Johnpmc35 said:
Hi, I'm for looking for some advice on how to lower my latency.

GPU/CPU: 1080ti, I7 7700k @ 4.8
Router: Virgin super hub 3
VD Reported Speed: 866 Mbps
VD Streaming Settings: Quality - Medium, FPS - 90, Bitrate - auto (but have tried various values here & nothing helps me get below 40ms latency), Sliced Encoding - On
VD Codec: H.264
Other Settings: Enabled 'Boost Clocks' in advance settings in VD. Nvidia ultra low latency mode.

I have my router in the living room & my pc in the downstairs office. The pc is connect to a Deco M5 puck (I have set the M5 to AP mode) by ethernet & the broadband speed test is showing 108 mbps download speed, this is the same as from the main router.

Within the super hub settings, I have separated out the 2.4ghz from the 5ghz, giving them each their own SSID and made sure nothing is running on the 5ghz, apart from the pc & the quest 2.

The vd overlay is showing my network is around 30ms & I'm getting an in game latency which fluctuates from 40 to 60. I've been testing using the lab archery & whilst playable, there is a noticeable delay, which is not ideal.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

IS the Deco M5 puck used for connecting the Quest 2 to the PC and nothing else? Or is it also wirelessly connecting back to the Hub to bring the internet to the computer?

Johnpmc35 · 23 Jan 2021 at 15:08

melmac said:
IS the Deco M5 puck used for connecting the Quest 2 to the PC and nothing else? Or is it also wirelessly connecting back to the Hub to bring the internet to the computer?

Thanks for the quick reply.

There is no hub as such but you must connect one of the pucks (I have 3 in total, living room - kitchen - office) to the router, so I guess this acts as a hub & you are correct in that the puck in the office will connect wirelessly to the puck connected to the router (in the living room).

As mentioned in the original message, the puck in the office is then just plugged into the mains & connected to the pc via ethernet, which does give internet access.

melmac · 23 Jan 2021 at 15:18

Johnpmc35 said:
Thanks for the quick reply.

There is no hub as such but you must connect one of the pucks (I have 3 in total, living room - kitchen - office) to the router, so I guess this acts as a hub & you are correct in that the puck in the office will connect wirelessly to the puck connected to the router (in the living room).

As mentioned in the original message, the puck in the office is then just plugged into the mains & connected to the pc via ethernet, which does give internet access.

I am not too well up on the Deco stuff. Sorry, but I would imagine that's the problem, the mesh network. The Quest 2 is connected to the mesh network. So it's not going straight to the PC.

Johnpmc35 · 23 Jan 2021 at 15:29

No problem but would this still be the case with me having set the Deco to Access Point mode? When I set up the network connection to my PC, I choose my 5ghz virgin media network & the same for the quest.

Before changing to AP mode, the Deco did create what appeared to be a second network & I would choose this for my PC.