Questions on racism

Runbalk · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:12

TheCrow said:
Ye, could you imagin if a black person got kicked out for calling some white person white or sumthing it would have set off riots.

I hope you aren't saying that calling a white person white is as bad as calling a black person ******.

Depth · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:12

TheCrow said:
So why wasnt Charley kicked out aswell?

Because a black person saying ****** can in no way be viewed as insulting. It has no racial overtones to it, unlike a white person saying the word.

Depth · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:14

TheCrow said:
non of my friends find it offence when i call them that?? so why do YOU find it offensive depending on the colour of person saying it? surely that that make your opinion racist as its bias on race and colour?

I don't care what your friends find accepatable or not, and thats not the point. These aren't people who are close friends and have known eachother for a long time. Do you think you could randomly approach a group of black men and greet them with the word ******?

Im from Samoa, and if you casually called me an "island ******" I would not find it amusing at all. I couldn't care less if another Polynesian said it though, because they are the same ethnicity as I am, thus it cannot be offensive.

TheCrow · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:15

Runbalk said:
I hope you aren't saying that calling a white person white is as bad as calling a black person ******.

it was the "white or sumthing" ie, some remark made purley on there colour.

Manlove is my forte · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:16

Depth said:
Because a black person saying ****** can in no way be viewed as insulting. It has no racial overtones to it, unlike a white person saying the word.

When Chris Rock Says it its insulting. and IIRC he is black.

Depth · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:17

Kronologic said:
When Chris Rock Says it its insulting. and IIRC he is black

He uses it as an insult for a different reason towards a type of person, and it doesn't have racial undertones to it, because Chris Rock as a black man. I hope you can understand this.

Manlove is my forte · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:17

Depth said:
He uses it as an insult for a different reason, and it doesn't have racial undertones to it. I hope you can understand this.

Eminem uses the word ***** all the time and IIRC he is white.

TheCrow · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:18

Depth said:
I don;t care what your friends find accepatable or not.

Im from Samoa, and if you casually called me an "island ******" I would not find it amusing at all. I couldn't care less if another Polynesian said it though, because they are the same ethnicity as I am, thus it cannot be offensive.

island? huh?

Well i think its ashame you feel so paraniod that you would find it only aceptable if a friend of the same race as you called you that, but took offecne if your friend of a diffrent race called you the same thing.

Do you not think that strange that you have split opinions based on race?

cleanbluesky · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:18

Depth said:
Im from Samoa, and if you casually called me an "island ******" I would not find it amusing at all. I couldn't care less if another Polynesian said it though, because they are the same ethnicity as I am, thus it cannot be offensive.

So if someone called you an 'island ******' and were polynesian and were tying to offend you, you would think that cool?

Why are you so sensitive to being called an island ****** anyway? Do you think you are one?

Depth · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:18

Kronologic said:
Eminem uses the word ***** all the time and IIRC he is white.

Er, no he doesn't, not at all. You just completely made that up.

Infact, when a very old record of his was found containing the ******, he was roasted for it by the hip hop community.

Runbalk · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:19

Depth said:
Because a black person saying ****** can in no way be viewed as insulting. It has no racial overtones to it, unlike a white person saying the word.

Except it can, especially by those who lived through the civil rights movement. I'd reckon most of them don't approve of the younger ones using the word.

Depth · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:20

cleanbluesky said:
So if someone called you an 'island ******' and were polynesian and were tying to offend you, you would think that cool?

Why are you so sensitive to being called an island ****** anyway? Do you think you are one?

How would I think it was cool? What a stupid question. He / she would be tring to insult me ethnicity, when they are the same ethnicity as I am anyway. How ridiculous.

No, I don't think Im a "******" mate. Do you?

Depth · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:20

Runbalk said:
Except it can, especially by those who lived through the civil rights movement. I'd reckon most of them don't approve of the younger ones using the word.

And they would have a hell of a bigger problem with white people using the word.

cleanbluesky · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:22

Depth said:
How would I think it was cool? What a stupid question. He / she would be tring to insult me ethnicity, when they are the same ethnicity as I am anyway. How ridiculous.

Stupid because the answer is yes or because the answer is no?

No, I don't think Im a "******" mate. Do you?

Post a picture, otherwise I can't tell.

Runbalk · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:23

cleanbluesky said:
Why are you so sensitive to being called an island ****** anyway? Do you think you are one?

I don't get it. If he finds it offensive, wouldn't it be because it's something he's not?

Depth · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:23

TheCrow said:
island? huh?

Well i think its ashame you feel so paraniod that you would find it only aceptable if a friend of the same race as you called you that, but took offecne if your friend of a diffrent race called you the same thing.

Do you not think that strange that you have split opinions based on race?

Nope, not at all. I don't believe in people of another race referring to me with a racist insult. I don't do it to my white / asian / black friends, why should they do it to me?

Depth · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:25

cleanbluesky said:
Stupid because the answer is yes or because the answer is no?

Post a picture, otherwise I can't tell.

No, I obviously wouldn't find it cool at all, so it's a stupid question. I have never referred to any of my family of friends as ******.

You want me to post a pic to see if Im a ****** or not?

cleanbluesky · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:25

Runbalk said:
I don't get it. If he finds it offensive, wouldn't it be because it's something he's not?

Insults tend to sting more when the person feels insecure about it.

For example, I wouldn't care if you called me a ****** - regardless of whether you were polynesian or not.

Manlove is my forte · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:26

Depth said:
Er, no he doesn't, not at all. You just completely made that up.

Infact, when a very old record of his was found containing the ******, he was roasted for it by the hip hop community.

Umm yes he does and he did not get "roasted" for the word ******, he got "roasted" for all the other words around the word ******.
IIRC he made 2 raps which were construed as minorly racist and when they appeared in the public domain he immediately apologized.

In fact going further they were only released into the public domain as an attempt to discredit him by the vindictive source editor Benzino<sp?>. The Hip-hop community by in large sided with eminem as they are well aware that he is not a racist person. But that is completely off topic.

Runbalk · 7 Jun 2007 at 16:26

Depth said:
And they would have a hell of a bigger problem with white people using the word.

They might feel more sensitive about white people using it. But the civil rights movement was about EQUAL rights. They didn't like anyone using the word, and as a matter of principle probably didn't like "cracker" either.