queue at hollister shop today...

People will pay what they want to pay for it. It's nice to own nice things. I've certainly bought a shirt because I wanted it to be of a certain brand (lyle and scott), I'm sure I'm not the only one. Jack Wills does some nice shirts in my opinion, but I can't really justify buying on.

Thankfully I bought a Primark knock off that looked fairly similar :p
 
there's no sale on, it's just that there are a lot of people in towns anyway who visit there also.

because of the layout it quickly gets crowded and they have to put out a queue.
 
Jack Wills, just like Hollister and Abercrombie & Fitch, is an aspirational brand.

In related developments, aspirational brands by definition don't have commodity brand pricing.

I understand how they make their money, I just mean I don't understand how they make it with clothes that are clearly, plainly awful!

At least with stuff like All Saints they've put effort into the clothes. They're not my thing, but they're properly designed. Same with Hollister to an extent, at least they're proper clothes.

Jack Wills looks like the stuff I wear when I'm ill!
 
That's marketing for you.

If you don't much care for the system (i.e. you don't value the aspirational aspect of the brand highly enough to warrant the pricing), buy products from commodity brands instead.

If you want to beat the system (i.e. you want the aspirational aspect without paying the price), buy the products second-hand or from outlet stores.

If you have a penchant for flip-flops, can park your Porsche at the same angle every day, walk through every revolving door twice and avoid passing employees on stairwells, you can run the system ;)
 
What i don't understand is last year there sale was hopeless, infact as far as i could tell nothing was actually on sale, when you get inside... are things actually reduced ?

I like the stuff, its pretty good quality, not liking the association with been overpriced and chavvy tho
 
Its actually the first time ive seen the place anywhere. Thanks for the funny comments guys. "I cant get phone signal in there" had me chuckling.

I would stick my head in the door if I didnt have to queue. Plus the people lining up looked a bit scraggy so I didnt think I was missing much!
 
Most new brands like this eventually turn into a chav brand. Bench, G-Star, Lyle & Scott, Henleys, Jack Wills, Hollister, A&F, etc. I'm not aware of any that haven't tbh, which means if you want branded stuff, you're better sticking to clothing from brands like Armani, Versace, Prada, etc.

...which is probably why I never have money. :p
 
there's no sale on, it's just that there are a lot of people in towns anyway who visit there also.

because of the layout it quickly gets crowded and they have to put out a queue.

i see what they did there, they use the fact the place is crowded to make a queue which makes people on the outside think the shops popular, drawing in the masses.

crafty.
 
Most new brands like this eventually turn into a chav brand. Bench, G-Star, Lyle & Scott, Henleys, Jack Wills, Hollister, A&F, etc. I'm not aware of any that haven't tbh, which means if you want branded stuff, you're better sticking to clothing from brands like Armani, Versace, Prada, etc.

...which is probably why I never have money. :p



I think people are banding the word 'chav' around a bit too much in this thread.

For example let's look at Superdry. Yes some chavs may where it, but it's owned and worn by people in all walks of life, from kids right up to respectable tax paying people in their late forties.

I wouldn't say that's 'chavvy', it's just a brand that has become so over popular that it's not cool anymore.

Your suggestion of sticking to brands like Armani, Versace etc isn't much good either because what they sell the bulk of are diffusion lines, which are their cheaper heavily branded ranges. These aren't the expensive, well made and designed pieces from superior materials, they are made in sweatshops just like everything else. I've seen plenty of people in 'Armani Jeans' or t-shirts with big 'Amarni' on it, but it's just crass and that same person is highly unlikely to be spending money on actual proper high end Armani, which is made from quality materials but has a price tag to match.


Abercrombie frequently has ques during busy periods, but then they have one UK store and have tons of Europeans in there who go because they don't have one in their own country.

I personally like A&F clothes, though I prefer the stuff that isn't overly branded, like they do with say the t-shirts. The trouble is the store is such a nightmare; it's interesting the first time, but after that all you want to do is buy clothes. Problem is you can barely see them properly because of the low light. The 'models/sales assistants' may be pretty... but have you actually ever tried asking one for help?

"Errr... sorry Sir, I'll have to ask somebody else, I'm not trained to stand on the ladder to get a pair of jeans down."

Don't even get me started on the ques for the changing rooms either...!
I got quite annoyed once that the 'model' who was responsible for checking doors wasn't really paying attention and was just joking around with another one of them. He totally missed that two of the changing rooms had been free for a good ten minutes while there was a que of about 15 people waiting to use them. The stupid thing is that they then also just open a door when they aren't sure whether somebody is in a room or not... would make more sense if they just had something simple to put on the door to say it's occupied. :rolleyes:

Oh and the music is like something out of a gay nightclub.

I don't believe they have sales though, as they don't need to have them. If it's busy at the moment, it's most likely because people are assuming they have one.
 
Your suggestion of sticking to brands like Armani, Versace etc isn't much good either because what they sell the bulk of are diffusion lines, which are their cheaper heavily branded ranges. These aren't the expensive, well made and designed pieces from superior materials, they are made in sweatshops just like everything else. I've seen plenty of people in 'Armani Jeans' or t-shirts with big 'Amarni' on it, but it's just crass and that same person is highly unlikely to be spending money on actual proper high end Armani, which is made from quality materials but has a price tag to match.

This is what I meant. I wasn't referring to the typical huge Armani branded t-shirts aimed at people who just want a bit of that brand in their wardrobe.
 
To be fair to them, the clothes do seem to be of a pretty decent quality, my mates hoodie from there is unbelievably comfortable. But as usual, overpriced and a shop layout that tries to be novel but just ends up being completely impractical.

I rarely ever spend more than £20 on any one piece of clothing unless it's hiking gear.
 
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