QX6700...High Temps

Cob · 3 Jul 2007 at 18:39

My vdroop is pretty horrific. 1.5v in BIOS is only 1.42v under load.

So, apples with apples I set my vcore to 1.385v in BIOS to get roughly the same 1.344v idle as yours at 3.2ghz-

Idle-

Load, dropping to 1.328v-

benktlottie · 3 Jul 2007 at 18:45

Brilliant mate, we can do like for like comparisons!

There a 10 degree (roughly) between water and the Titan under Quad Prime load. Theres a massive Idle difference....

Youve got a distinct 5 degree difference in your dies, must has a 'no so flat' IHS there! I know I wouldnt lap mine...

Let me see if I can run a Quad Prime @ 3.34 with 1.4v. Any higher and I know the heat will kill it!

Cob · 3 Jul 2007 at 18:51

I've an extra 0.03v volts going through mine at load, so the difference may be a little bigger.

My IHS is pretty flat. The 5c difference knocked me a bit when i first got the chip, but full contact is being made with the Fuzion's base. I haven't the balls to lap it just yet to check for certain. I'll maybe feel a bit more comfortable after the 22nd :rolleyes:

Kingy1968 · 3 Jul 2007 at 19:11

FLASH BUGGERS!!!! lmao

Why Oh why cant i get low temps on air....

I feel like smashing it up

Cob · 3 Jul 2007 at 19:16

I know water makes a difference, but I didn't expect to see a 25c difference in stock idle temps between the water and some of the air cooled chips.

Some chips must just naturally be a lot warmer than others.

benktlottie · 3 Jul 2007 at 19:24

3.336ghz @ 1.4 BIOS - IDLE

3.336ghz @ 1.4 BIOs - LOAD

Over 70 LOAD !

Definately starting to see the advantage of water at these vcores and speeds. I reckon if I had watercooling and could get 1.5v through this chip, its a defo 3.6ghz around the 70 mark. The Amanda is definately holding her ground. Definately worth the £35 I paid for it inc on the Member Market!

I am seeing some mental vdroop on this DS3. I was watching the LOAD run and was seeing between 1.312 - 1.36v.

benktlottie · 3 Jul 2007 at 19:29

Kingy1968 said:
FLASH BUGGERS!!!! lmao

Why Oh why cant i get low temps on air....

I feel like smashing it up

LOL - dont smash it up, its a Quad mate !

Perhaps the Asus Silent Square heatsink and fan isn't cutting the mustard ?

I think we can conclude if youre overclocking in any way shape or form, you have to consider high end air or water cooling. I didnt try mine on the stock cooler that came with it. anyone got some screenshot of temps with the stock HSF ?

benktlottie · 3 Jul 2007 at 19:31

Cob said:
I know water makes a difference, but I didn't expect to see a 25c difference in stock idle temps between the water and some of the air cooled chips.

Some chips must just naturally be a lot warmer than others.

I agree, 25 defrees is a lot. But, the LOAD temps are better than I thought in comparison. I've actually decided not to goto water based on this evening experiment (really grateful you did this testing with me) as I'm quite happy with how the Amanda copes. What WC parts do you have ?

Cob · 3 Jul 2007 at 19:41

A D-Tek Fuzion and an Alphacool NexXxoS Xtreme II rad with a little XSPC pump/res combo.

A pretty basic set-up with a damn good CPU block.

sarge78 · 3 Jul 2007 at 20:14

Hi,

I've a question regarding the thermal specification for the QX6700. On Intels web site, here, its says the maximum thermal spec is 65?C.
This seems quite high, the QX6800 is only 55!, so does it mean that this particular chip can/is suppose to run hot?

Thanks.
ps,
Kingy1968 - I'll swap your quad for my E2160 (before you smash it up

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benktlottie · 3 Jul 2007 at 20:37

sarge78 said:
Hi,

I've a question regarding the thermal specification for the QX6700. On Intels web site, here, its says the maximum thermal spec is 65°C.
This seems quite high, the QX6800 is only 55!, so does it mean that this particular chip can/is suppose to run hot?

Thanks.
ps,
Kingy1968 - I'll swap your quad for my E2160 (before you smash it up )

What theyre trying to say it that you shouldnt really run these chips past their thermal Specs. One of the highest thermal spec was the Pentium M which had a thermal spec of 100 degrees. Mobile chips tend to be higher, as the cooling is less adequate (ie. stuck in a laptop!). Hence why the Pentium M was such a good clocker in a desktop env. Basically, over the rated thermal spec, an overheated CPU is more prone to electromigration, which will degrade the quality of your chip over a period of time. Most of the high end P4 (3.46EE) chips had around the same thermal spec as the Quads...

Cob · 3 Jul 2007 at 20:38

They also say the max vcore should be 1.375v

benktlottie · 3 Jul 2007 at 20:40

Cob said:
They also say the max vcore should be 1.375v

LOL, says he pushing 1.5v through it! Rules are meant to be broken !!!

sarge78 · 3 Jul 2007 at 21:04

Thanks guys, man I'vd love one of those quads.
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Kingy1968 · 3 Jul 2007 at 23:34

Well like i say mines running at roughly 50-55oc at the moment on idle..

Its running at stock 2.40 and 1.3v

It wont come below 50oC.. Ive had a RMA from OCUK where I got it from and there tech support said it was running hot and there could be a problem with it so they said they would just do a straight swap out for another chip..

I am however though going to my m8s tomorrow to try the chip in his machine. He has exactly the same setup as me, case, cpu cooler, memory etc... So if the temps are the same on his it could either be a faulty chip or as one other member said the Asus Silent Square cooler might not be up to the job..

Thanks

Kingy1968 · 4 Jul 2007 at 13:28

HAAA HAAAAAA!!! Maybe someone could help me here...

As I posted above my temps idle on my q6600 are around the 51-55oC mark using TAT or CORETEMP program...

However if i reboot my machine and then go into the bios and then go to the Hardware Monitor my cpu and motherboard temperature show in there as 34oC and 34oC.

Can anyone shed any light on what might be the problem?

I mean is the bios hardware monitor more accurate than the TAT and Coretemp program?

Thanks

benktlottie · 4 Jul 2007 at 13:47

Kingy1968 said:
HAAA HAAAAAA!!! Maybe someone could help me here...

As I posted above my temps idle on my q6600 are around the 51-55oC mark using TAT or CORETEMP program...

However if i reboot my machine and then go into the bios and then go to the Hardware Monitor my cpu and motherboard temperature show in there as 34oC and 34oC.

Can anyone shed any light on what might be the problem?

I mean is the bios hardware monitor more accurate than the TAT and Coretemp program?

Thanks

When youre in the BIOS, theres not a lot going on so the processor Idle temp is much lower than when in Windows. When you in Windows, youre using resources even though its Idle, the processor is still running Windows.

In my BIOS, my CPU temps show as 28, which is right at the time, but my Idle temps in windows are in the mid 40's...

Coretemp and TAT are still the most accurate temp monitors in Windows. they wont be wrong mate!!!

Kingy1968 · 4 Jul 2007 at 21:31

I tried the chip on me m8s pc and the temps were still the same, so i put it down to either a faulty chip as one of the tech guys suggested at OCUK or the H/S and fan wernt good enough..

I decided to take the plunge and rip off the heatsink and give it a good lapping on some 600 grit wet and dry and then 1500 grit to finish it off..

I managed to get it as shiny as i could and then I cleaned it all with nail varnish remover to remove any residue.

Reapplied artic silver to the chip and a slight coating to the H/S and put it on the board..

Ive now managed to get the temps idle to about 47-48oc maybe a little hotter depending on room temp, but at least ive managed to shave about 7 or 8oC so at the moment im quite happy until i get a new heatsink so i can overclock this beastie...

Thanks Guys for the help

benktlottie · 4 Jul 2007 at 23:08

Kingy1968 said:
I tried the chip on me m8s pc and the temps were still the same, so i put it down to either a faulty chip as one of the tech guys suggested at OCUK or the H/S and fan wernt good enough..

I decided to take the plunge and rip off the heatsink and give it a good lapping on some 600 grit wet and dry and then 1500 grit to finish it off..

I managed to get it as shiny as i could and then I cleaned it all with nail varnish remover to remove any residue.

Reapplied artic silver to the chip and a slight coating to the H/S and put it on the board..

Ive now managed to get the temps idle to about 47-48oc maybe a little hotter depending on room temp, but at least ive managed to shave about 7 or 8oC so at the moment im quite happy until i get a new heatsink so i can overclock this beastie...

Thanks Guys for the help

Thats a real result! 7-8 degrees off is very good for lapping. Nice one. Start overclocking it!

Edit: I see youre getting a new HSF. What you gonna get ?

Kingy1968 · 5 Jul 2007 at 11:38

Well to be honest I dont know what im gonna get....

I was looking at the tuniq tower or the thermal ultra 120?

Ive read on a few forums that there isnt much difference in temps between these two so i might opt for the tuniq and save me £30+

Thanks