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R2 290 reference cooler and noise in silent mode?

Haven't people been forecasting a better cooler for years? Notably after the 69XX.

Probably but this is the first time AMD have acknowledged it. Just look at the 295x2 cooler and the excellent job it does. I believe we'll see a new and improved reference design cooler from AMD when the 390 launches. Bookmark this post so when it happens you can say, he was right again. ;)
 
I'd prefer they didnt folow the 295x2 sort of cooler :( Most users want a nice simple fit air cooler, They should just use one of the AIB 3 fan coolers imo they work well enough
 
Oh aye, bargain! :D

Point is, if they were keeping it the same they'd have used the 7990 cooler.

Rip off i agree, but an excellent quiet cooling solution and a sign that the next line of coolers will be different.

http://wccftech.com/amd-talks-coolers-nextgen-radeon-hd-8000-series/

You are quite correct Mart and AMD's product manager for desktops confirmed it but they still used the same cooler.

All that says is "We will continue to work together with our partners in alternative, efficient cooling solutions".

That means they will continue to work with AIB partners to produce good AIB cooling designs. Says nothing about changing the reference card at all. Not sure how you can read that any other way.
 
iirc the same cooler/PCB template has been in use since the hd5800's.

I think the cooling capacity of the current cooler is showing its age so hope amd put some thought and cash behind the next lot of cards.
 
Point is, if they were keeping it the same they'd have used the 7990 cooler.

Rip off i agree, but an excellent quiet cooling solution and a sign that the next line of coolers will be different.

I agree, but will it filter down to single card solutions at the prices we pay.
 
I thought the stock cooler was alright tbh, it didn't need running above 50% to stop if throttling (i ran it about 45%), you only need to up the fan speed with a reasonable overclock which isn't really required unless your benching for 1 minute here and there.

If you can't sort your airflow out properly or you have stuck it in a case with poor airflow then thats your problem/fault if you need to ramp the fans up.

What fan % do you run your 290 on greg, or is under water?
 
iirc the same cooler/PCB template has been in use since the hd5800's.

I think the cooling capacity of the current cooler is showing its age so hope amd put some thought and cash behind the next lot of cards.

They will and off the record have said as much and that was before the 295x2 launched. ;)

I agree, but will it filter down to single card solutions at the prices we pay.

We won't be seeing Hybrid cooling as standard. Just think they'll redesign and modernise the reference cooler to be more efficient, but most importantly a bit quieter. I doubt it will be identical to the Titan cooler though as they'll probably look for a more cost effective solution.

I thought the stock cooler was alright tbh, it didn't need running above 50% to stop if throttling (i ran it about 45%), you only need to up the fan speed with a reasonable overclock which isn't really required unless your benching for 1 minute here and there.

If you can't sort your airflow out properly or you have stuck it in a case with poor airflow then thats your problem/fault if you need to ramp the fans up.

What fan % do you run your 290 on greg, or is under water?

+1. (Technically +2 as i have two cards :D)
 
All that says is "We will continue to work together with our partners in alternative, efficient cooling solutions".

That means they will continue to work with AIB partners to produce good AIB cooling designs. Says nothing about changing the reference card at all. Not sure how you can read that any other way.

Did you read the same thing as me?

AMD is said to be working on better coolers for their next generation Radeon HD 8000 series cards according to a report by Computerbase. The site had a meeting with AMD’s product manager for desktop graphics at Computex 2013 who told that AMD is indeed working on a new series of graphics card which would feature better coolers than the ones currently available on Radeon HD 7000 series:

Read more: http://wccftech.com/amd-talks-coolers-nextgen-radeon-hd-8000-series/#ixzz2znB4yqfe

It's all good and I seriously feel for the amount of throttling that will happen when the Summer does hit us for owners of the reference 290's/X's unless they have air con.
 
Did you read the same thing as me?



It's all good and I seriously feel for the amount of throttling that will happen when the Summer does hit us for owners of the reference 290's/X's unless they have air con.

Wccftech are saying that Greg. The actual AMD guy said nothing of the sort. Just because wccftech say something does not make it true. Its possible that the AMD guy was hinting at the 295x2 design, however not sure i even believe that as it was a long way off.

“The next coolers are better. Although I can not go into detail for the next generation, however, we have some changes made ​​to the cooling system. The cooler the Radeon HD 7900 series was in fact no great shakes.”

Above referring to the 295x2 cooling system, maybe. ^^

” not interested in their own reference design attractive – and thus connected: costly – to make “.

Above referring to the standard AMD reference design. Actual quotes from the AMD guy. (supposedly)

If this was from another site than wccftech, it may be more credible.

Also worth noting that the 8000 series they were referring to are simply rebrands, not the 290 series.The rebranded 8000 series (which became 280 and 280X) were all non reference design.

The question of whether the half-hearted implementation of the solution provided by AMD is intended to give enough room for their own improvements to the partners, Nekechuck denied emphatically. " In the end it comes to customer satisfaction. If we manage to provide a better cooler is available, the customer benefits. And the partners have to spend more effort to contact their card go one better. "

That does not sound like a we will make a brand new better reference cooler to me.
 
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It's all good and I seriously feel for the amount of throttling that will happen when the Summer does hit us for owners of the reference 290's/X's unless they have air con.

The reference cards are likely going to take a hit on big oc's in the summer but so do the rest whether on air or water-regarding max clocks.

There are hotter countries than the UK you know.

The AIB ones will throttle the exact same as Nvidia AIB cards-they will maintain usage before Nvidia reference start throttling, but all systems are likely going to take a hit, it's nothing new, same as it's always been.

Wasn't there a thread last year in the height of summer about how people had to turn down their cpu/gpu clocks due to heat?

Throttling won't be exclusive to 290's, you have said a few times your legs are burning due to the heat your rig produces.
 
Works fine for me... But when the wife, who is "trying to sleep through your noisy bloody PC" comes into the room to smack you round the head, you won't even hear her approaching!! :eek::D

add car door mirrors to the side of the monitor then you can see anyone creeping up on your rear:D
 
Wccftech are saying that Greg. The actual AMD guy said nothing of the sort. Just because wccftech say something does not make it true. Its possible that the AMD guy was hinting at the 295x2 design, however not sure i even believe that as it was a long way off.

“The next coolers are better. Although I can not go into detail for the next generation, however, we have some changes made ​​to the cooling system. The cooler the Radeon HD 7900 series was in fact no great shakes.”

Above referring to the 295x2 cooling system, maybe. ^^

” not interested in their own reference design attractive – and thus connected: costly – to make “.

Above referring to the standard AMD reference design. Actual quotes from the AMD guy. (supposedly)

If this was from another site than wccftech, it may be more credible.

Also worth noting that the 8000 series they were referring to are simply rebrands, not the 290 series.The rebranded 8000 series (which became 280 and 280X) were all non reference design.



That does not sound like a we will make a brand new better reference cooler to me.

Not sure how you can deny what wccftech are saying when it clearly states an AMD Manager said. I don't think you work for AMD (yet), so I can't see how you can dismiss it so easily.

@ Tommy. Don't confuse the heat coming from my case with the temps of my components. It is all about heat removal and my waterblocks/Rads/pumps/fans all do a fantastic job of removing that heat. My legs do get very hot when gaming but that doesn't mean the temps of my components are hot ;)

It's a science thing ;)
 
Not sure how you can deny what wccftech are saying when it clearly states an AMD Manager said. I don't think you work for AMD (yet), so I can't see how you can dismiss it so easily.

It's a science thing ;)

Its pretty simple i think. He's talking about AIB cards, it even says that in the quote. Also 8xxx cards are all...wait for it... AIB rebrand cards. There are no 8xxx reference cards, so how could he say we're improving the reference cooler? All 280 and 280X cards are wait for it... AIB custom cooled cards.
 
@matt(and any other dual card gamers on air), your summer gaming apparel?:

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Don't confuse the heat coming from my case with the temps of my components. It is all about heat removal and my waterblocks/Rads/pumps/fans all do a fantastic job of removing that heat.

It's a science thing ;)

You must have missed the science part, not so much an issue in UK winter, but in the summer if it's hot, the heat removed is removed from your components-cooling(air/water doesn't matter) removes waste heat from the system quicker as you know, the quicker your ambient room temps increase=heat up a room, the quicker temps increase in said room, thus increasing components temps-It's a science thing.:D

Which echoes my other part of my op that you conveniently left out, they will all throttle to an extent.

You(and others) said last year, you have to run slower=cooler in the summer, it won't be AMD 290 series exclusive like you implied.
 
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