R50

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough; by 'them' I meant the whole category including RR range and Cayenne's and Audi equivalent.

The market for these are proven are they not?

Whether these R50's will sell I have no idea, and does seem a bit stupid given the badge - a bit like the Phaeton (which I think would have been a more apt example).
 
Although the R50 may not make a return on the investment, surely its 'image enhancing' to the majority of car buyers (not you OcUK nuts) and can only serve to improve the desirability of the lesser vehicles. Indirect ROI.

Oh, and as for 'is there a market?', I disagree as I know a couple of people who buy large, powerful SUV's just like this. They know it's a big 4x4, they know it's powerful, it looks good too (subjective, don't argue this) and it's around the kind of price range they'd expect to pay for it. So they'll buy it.
 
Oh, and as for 'is there a market?', I disagree as I know a couple of people who buy large, powerful SUV's just like this. They know it's a big 4x4, they know it's powerful, it looks good too (subjective, don't argue this) and it's around the kind of price range they'd expect to pay for it. So they'll buy it.

No they wont, becuase it doesnt have a Range Rover, Audi, BMW, Mercedes or Porsche badge. There are few cases of badge snobbery more extreme than your average performance SUV buyer simply becuase of the type of person these cars appeal to.
 
Maybe we should ask Spie again about his old Toureg v10 which was the predecessor. I seem to remember him rather likeing it. Infact I seem to remember him preferring it to his E39 M5.
 
you would be surprised at how many people do actually look at performance figures when buying these things foxy, the buyers are not all money and no brains.
 
Maybe we should ask Spie again about his old Toureg v10 which was the predecessor. I seem to remember him rather likeing it. Infact I seem to remember him preferring it to his E39 M5.

But he liked it for its utility and ability to do a job - off road and towing.

All things for which lowering and bling are somewhat useless.
 
you would be surprised at how many people do actually look at performance figures when buying these things foxy, the buyers are not all money and no brains.

I've never said they dont - Cayenne Turbo figures speak for themselves - more that badge is as important as performance to the majority of buyers in this market.
 
[TW]Fox;11646973 said:
But he liked it for its utility and ability to do a job - off road and towing.

All things for which lowering and bling are somewhat useless.

where does it say its been lowered?

Its got a nicer body and some nice paint and much more power/torque.

Surely that means it would be even better at its job ?
 
[TW]Fox;11646955 said:
No they wont, becuase it doesnt have a Range Rover, Audi, BMW, Mercedes or Porsche badge. There are few cases of badge snobbery more extreme than your average performance SUV buyer simply becuase of the type of person these cars appeal to.
What better way to measure that market than by building one!

How else will they know, brand build and ultimately eat into that sector? You can't be negative in this industry. Should VW can everything but the Golf?
 
But they don't need to - they've got Audi. They already have a respected premium brand so their numerous failed attempts to boost VW into this same market are confusing, pointless and detract from their core markets.

We don't need prestigious and super-posh VW's becuase thats what an Audi is. Why not make a V10 Q7S or something instead?

Same as the Pheaton. An awesome car but pointless when the A8 exists.
 
[TW]Fox;11646996 said:
But they don't need to - they've got Audi. They already have a respected premium brand so their numerous failed attempts to boost VW into this same market are confusing, pointless and detract from their core markets.

We don't need prestigious and super-posh VW's becuase thats what an Audi is. Why not make a V10 Q7S or something instead?

Same as the Pheaton. An awesome car but pointless when the A8 exists.
Perhaps this is a tactic to raise Audi's stock too.
 
I do like the look of the current face lifted ones with the full body kit, also going by the reviews suppose to be a very good off roader/tow car however never really should have been a VW should have been a Audi off roader as they needed one at the time it came out.

There is a lot of them driving about here for some reason, most are the 3L TDI though but look pretty similair to the R50 just without the bright paint. I've been in a couple and the interior is well built but just has too many buttons as it doesn't have a MMI based system.
 
[TW]Fox;11646973 said:
But he liked it for its utility and ability to do a job - off road and towing.

All things for which lowering and bling are somewhat useless.


Interesting, I don't remember him even mentioning that.
What I remember was him commenting on a regular run that had to do on a weekly basis taking in a variety of roads, and suggesting that the Toureg was a better allrounder for his preferences.

And the reason why I remember reading that was my level of increduility that someone could prefer a soft roader to an M5. Certainly made me think twice.
 
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