R600 Benchmarks??

[silversurfer]

I wonder how much money he makes off the adverts. He has got a link on a thousand different forums by now I bet. Completely legal free money

More then enough to buy a R600 Iam guessing

 

[Dark_Angel]

While the R600 clearly isnt out available to bench yet, it really makes me wonder what the hell to do.

At the moment I have my heart set on the 8800GTS, but am really unsure if it is worth buying and waiting till feb time to see if there is any reviews or previews of the R600.

Understand I am not an ATI lover, I don't care which company gets my money as long as I get the best product, but I don't really wanna spend 300 - 400 on a graphics card, then a month later find out I could have gone with a better card...

A part of me is considering upgrading to a E6300, DS3, 2GB of ram and just using a (horrible) 6200 128MB for a while to see what happens, but then with the rumors of Intels price cuts too, it really seems like a bad time for me to upgrade

 

[lay-z-boy]

if you had something better than a 6200 then i would say wait but, damm that must be painful with one of those

 

[Robert]

Just get the 8800GTS. There'll always be something better.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Just get the GTS, no point waiting as if the R600 does indeed beat the GTX, then Nvidia will only release a refresher which is faster than that, then ATi will do the same, and so it will continue, so if you wait, you'll always wait and never buy.

 

[beast]

I say buy now too. There's ALWAYS something better round the corner with PC's, in my opinion anyway.

 

[Dark_Angel]

if you had something better than a 6200 then i would say wait but, damm that must be painful with one of those

I do my best thinking at night I think /cheese mode at full

I need several bits for my PC at the moment, so I may take a super cheese way out of this lol.

I have an X800XT AGP at the moment, so I will buy a Asrock PCIE AGP motherboard with my conroe (NOT the DS3) and then just use the DS3. Once feb comes, I will then just make my choice and then grab the best card out there, and the DS3.

This to me seems a better choice than the 6200 and DS3 now idea. At least I get to know a bit about Intel systems and do a few other bits, plus I can save up the extra bit of cash and rather than getting the GTS get the GTX. *still considering other options though*

*EDIT*

To be clear my current system is

Venice @ 2.7GHZ
1GB DDR1 ram
Epox Nforce 3 AGP m/b
X800XT AGP (clocked at 540/540)

Eventually will get E6300
DS3
2GB 6400 ram
Corsair 520W PSU
8800 GTS OR R600

For time being will get:

E6300
RAM
PSU
Asrock Motherboard
KEEP X800XT

Then replace the X800XT and the Asrock with a DS3 and a 8800GTS or R600

 

[TonyM16]

I wonder how much money he makes off the adverts. He has got a link on a thousand different forums by now I bet. Completely legal free money

More then enough to buy a R600 Iam guessing

Oh my god. I never thought about that. You have given me an idea

It's a website called the....

"Insider"

I am going to pretend to be a disillusioned exec working for ATI who doesn't like nda and wants to show people how the product is developing and what kind of benchmarks it will get etc etc.

WHat do you think?

The idea needs a bit of work, I know but it could work. I could create a "buzz" on the net. All the kids of the forums will be like "hey you checked out that badass down Insider.com who defys ATI and posts all kinds of info about the R600".

I could make some mock pics using photoshop or something. Then I will have loads of adverts on my site and watch the money roll in

 

[Lolcb]

ATi is working their arse off thinking how to make a card to beat the G80. Cause if they can't produce a card that can beat the G80 by a certain margin in Q1 2007, Ati is out of the dx10 picture.

 

[Dark_Angel]

ATi is working their arse off thinking how to make a card to beat the G80. Cause if they can't produce a card that can beat the G80 by a certain margin in Q1 2007, Ati is out of the dx10 picture.

As I said, I dont mind which card I get. I just want the best bang for the buck. A (small) part of me wants to buy the Nvidia card more though, just like a small part of me is happy I am going Intel too.

I guess its because I havent tried the "dark side" really, the only Nvidia cards I have had are a 5700 (non ultra) which lasted me a week before I sold and got a 9800 pro, and a GF2 MX :/

 

[FrankJH]

ATi is working their arse off thinking how to make a card to beat the G80. Cause if they can't produce a card that can beat the G80 by a certain margin in Q1 2007, Ati is out of the dx10 picture.

Sorry thats just ****

DX10 will hardly have been out in Q1 - let alone in use by any games, so why would not having a card out have any baring on it

DX10 will after all be around for 18 months - maybe even more ....and the only major reason for it in the first place is Vista.

Just like AMD are able to produce the Athlon, X2 and Opty out of basically nothing and keep Intel at bay for a couple of years or more - ATI are just as capable of doing the same in 6 months...... just remember how the 9700 came about from basically nothing and kept nv in 2nd postion for a very long time.

Ive had both makes of card, so I really dont care but this kind of statement really stinks to high heaven

 

[Lolcb]

The thing is, if you wait for R600, your card will still end up getting beaten by Nvidia's 8900GTX. So rather than playing the waiting game, might as well treat urself to the G80 cards now.

 

[Lolcb]

Sorry thats just ****

DX10 will hardly have been out in Q1 - let alone in use by any games, so why would not having a card out have any baring on it

DX10 will after all be around for 18 months - maybe even more ....and the only major reason for it in the first place is Vista.

Just like AMD are able to produce the Athlon, X2 and Opty out of basically nothing and keep Intel at bay for a couple of years or more - ATI are just as capable of doing the same in 6 months...... just remember how the 9700 came about from basically nothing and kept nv in 2nd postion for a very long time.

Ive had both makes of card, so I really dont care but this kind of statement really stinks to high heaven

Please, history is history. I am sure Nvidia is not that stupid to let history repeat itself. Put yourself in ATi's position, not only do they have to create a card to beat the present 8800GTX, they have to create one that have the possibility of being on par with the 8900GTX. And not to mention Nvidia will be introducing mid end dx10 cards around the same time when dx10 anticipated games are going to come out ( alan wake, hellgate london etc etc ).

As much as it stinks, at least it smells of truth. It is a fact that if ATi is unable to produce result in Q1 2007, the market share they will lose will be quite significant.

 

[Dark_Angel]

Please, history is history. I am sure Nvidia is not that stupid to let history repeat itself. Put yourself in ATi's position, not only do they have to create a card to beat the present 8800GTX, they have to create one that have the possibility of being on par with the 8900GTX. And not to mention Nvidia will be introducing mid end dx10 cards around the same time when dx10 anticipated games are going to come out ( alan wake, hellgate london etc etc ).

As much as it stinks, at least it smells of truth. It is a fact that if ATi is unable to produce result in Q1 2007, the market share they will lose will be quite significant.

While I don't agree with you totally, I do agree with you to a certain amount,

If you have the money now, get the 8800. I personally am upgrading the rest of my computer, and am going to wait for a month. I have LOADS of games on the 360 I still need to play thru (still not even completed Call Of Duty 3 or Rainbow 6 yet!) plus lost planet is released January too.

I figure that, plus a few other bits such as working on my website will keep me busy for a month, then I will just buy whatever is best.

If you need/want a card now, waiting isnt going to help really, something better always comes out. There is no proof the Ati card will beat Nvidia, (in theory it should, since its released later and all, but this not always the case).

Either way, thats just my feelings in it

 

[sajtion]

not a major difference between them. i would always get nvidia because it handles heat much better

 

[FrankJH]

Please, history is history. I am sure Nvidia is not that stupid to let history repeat itself. Put yourself in ATi's position, not only do they have to create a card to beat the present 8800GTX, they have to create one that have the possibility of being on par with the 8900GTX. And not to mention Nvidia will be introducing mid end dx10 cards around the same time when dx10 anticipated games are going to come out ( alan wake, hellgate london etc etc ).

As much as it stinks, at least it smells of truth. It is a fact that if ATi is unable to produce result in Q1 2007, the market share they will lose will be quite significant.

Actually you will find the IT industry in general repeats itself constantly and goes in cycles, performance crown going from one company to the opposition in nearly every generation whether its cpu or gpu

No disrespect but you may not recall in the late 80's early 90's when networks were all run from a "server" and there was little if any local grunt and all apps ran from a centralised source. Look at Citrix now (which has been widely used for several years now) is basically the same idea updated somewhat.

You can go even further back or come smack upto date, everything about computers goes in circles , even SLI is an old idea that died out and was reborn (even if nv made the initials stand for something else it was still two graphics cards working in tandem)

I dont know what it is, but it always seems to happen , whether the concerntration, research, finance and everythng else is so costly now that any one company can only afford to get one product to be a killer every other generation - and then the next is just an update - I really dont know but it does happen.

Im not saying ATI are gaurenteed to do it - but history DOES tend to repeat it self and on a product like dx10 having a killer product out in the first two months of its life when it should last 18 months - two years or possibly more, its not this period that ATI have to worry about imo

 

[Robert]

Sorry thats just ****

DX10 will hardly have been out in Q1 - let alone in use by any games, so why would not having a card out have any baring on it

DX10 will after all be around for 18 months - maybe even more ....and the only major reason for it in the first place is Vista.

Just like AMD are able to produce the Athlon, X2 and Opty out of basically nothing and keep Intel at bay for a couple of years or more - ATI are just as capable of doing the same in 6 months...... just remember how the 9700 came about from basically nothing and kept nv in 2nd postion for a very long time.

Ive had both makes of card, so I really dont care but this kind of statement really stinks to high heaven

You don't just make things from "nothing" R300 had been in development for some time. AMD didn't just say "hey lets beat intel and release this tomorrow".

If ATI have had problems...then they have to redesign - tape it out AGAIN which is quite a lengthy process and then go again.

 

[Jokester]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5524

Interesting comment at the bottom of the article about the site being run by employees of AMD.

So, the propaganda war begins .

Jokester

 

[Lolcb]

So the business development section of AMD is doing this underhand tactic to pull people off from buying anymore G80 and wait for R600. Lol.

 

[Richdog]

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5524

Interesting comment at the bottom of the article about the site being run by employees of AMD.

So, the propaganda war begins .

Jokester

Indeedy!

If Level505's comments seem a little too pro-ATI, don't be too surprised. When asked if the site was affiliated in any way to ATI or AMD, the owner replied to DailyTech with the statement that "two staff members of ours are directly affiliated with AMD's business [development] division."

Propaganda at it's finest.