Haha. You say this in every thread.
99.9% of the time when challenged you can't point to any actual racist posts.
Yet without fail you refer to the posters as "those racists".
It's tragic, it really is.
Race report: 'UK not deliberately rigged against ethnic minorities'
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99.9% of the time when challenged you can't point to any actual racist posts.
Yet without fail you refer to the posters as "those racists".
It's tragic, it really is.
I have literally called it out in this very thread on the last page
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The woke god moves in mysterious ways.
Even Boris is distancing himself from his own report on the news now, oh dear.
Sadly the sensible bits of this report will
be lost in the noise, I’d much rather see us spending our time in elevating those trapped in poverty and giving kids from the poorest backgrounds the support and opportunities they deserve regardless of background as education is the key to equality.
Sadly the sensible bits of this report will
be lost in the noise, I’d much rather see us spending our time in elevating those trapped in poverty and giving kids from the poorest backgrounds the support and opportunities they deserve regardless of background as education is the key to equality.
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Extend your starting timeline by just 2 years and that statistic changes drastically.
Well yes, I would too after it’s been reviewed and anyone with a brain has dismissed it as nonsense propaganda.
Lots of brains lacking itt from the usual GD posters.
A thread I feel I should stay out of, but here goes.
There is all sorts of problems, and I dont know where to start.
So first thing is I have always said that a lot of the reasons for non british white been less successful in general is because of social issues, these issues exist in this country, the division is quite bad, but this is something poor british white people suffer from as well, I expect if you was to do an investigation on how often someone born in a higher class family is successful vs someone born in a family living of the state, you would see unsurprising results.
Then there is the subject of systemic racism, I still find this something hugely overhyped, I am not going to claim there is no racism, but the definition of what is claimed to be systemic racism needs to be changed, the idea that systemic racism means anytime a minor race is a loser in a situation it must mean its systemic racism. The only fix to this supposed situation is to have counter racism to mean a minor race is never a loser. e.g. the police only employing black candidate's.
To me a proper example of systemic racism would maybe where an employer consciously only employs white people because he thinks every black person has a higher chance of been a criminal. In that instance there is not equal opportunity. So I do believe it exists but just not in the same way.
As an example BAME communities have lower take up of the vaccine, what are the reasons? is it refusal, or have they been offered less, according to data its mostly down to refusal. I expect however this is classed as systemic racism.
So really this needs movement from everyone, we never going to get masses accepting systemic racism is a thing, I consider myself very open minded, and I just cant get my mind round it. On the flip side there does need to be issues tackled in this country that BAME communities are often a victim off.
Some examples.
Lack of housing capacity in areas which are highly populated by BAME communities such as Leicester.
Lack of proper SSP pay, again something BAME communities suffer from.
Lack of employment protections in certain abused industries, examples of course the clothing factories in Leicester.
No effort to prevent ghettos from building up. This is primarily happening as again areas are born that lots of poor people live in, instead of equal spread around the country, and this is even more prevalent with BAME communities. Minorities who live in wealthy areas dominated by British white tend to be more successful.
Whats so frustrating is that covid was a perfect catalyst to tackle these things, but the opportunity wasnt taken, typical party ideology has prevented it.
To finalise this post, this doesnt mean I agree with the report.
This government doesnt even recognise poverty exists in the UK, which says a lot.
There is all sorts of problems, and I dont know where to start.
So first thing is I have always said that a lot of the reasons for non british white been less successful in general is because of social issues, these issues exist in this country, the division is quite bad, but this is something poor british white people suffer from as well, I expect if you was to do an investigation on how often someone born in a higher class family is successful vs someone born in a family living of the state, you would see unsurprising results.
Then there is the subject of systemic racism, I still find this something hugely overhyped, I am not going to claim there is no racism, but the definition of what is claimed to be systemic racism needs to be changed, the idea that systemic racism means anytime a minor race is a loser in a situation it must mean its systemic racism. The only fix to this supposed situation is to have counter racism to mean a minor race is never a loser. e.g. the police only employing black candidate's.
To me a proper example of systemic racism would maybe where an employer consciously only employs white people because he thinks every black person has a higher chance of been a criminal. In that instance there is not equal opportunity. So I do believe it exists but just not in the same way.
As an example BAME communities have lower take up of the vaccine, what are the reasons? is it refusal, or have they been offered less, according to data its mostly down to refusal. I expect however this is classed as systemic racism.
So really this needs movement from everyone, we never going to get masses accepting systemic racism is a thing, I consider myself very open minded, and I just cant get my mind round it. On the flip side there does need to be issues tackled in this country that BAME communities are often a victim off.
Some examples.
Lack of housing capacity in areas which are highly populated by BAME communities such as Leicester.
Lack of proper SSP pay, again something BAME communities suffer from.
Lack of employment protections in certain abused industries, examples of course the clothing factories in Leicester.
No effort to prevent ghettos from building up. This is primarily happening as again areas are born that lots of poor people live in, instead of equal spread around the country, and this is even more prevalent with BAME communities. Minorities who live in wealthy areas dominated by British white tend to be more successful.
Whats so frustrating is that covid was a perfect catalyst to tackle these things, but the opportunity wasnt taken, typical party ideology has prevented it.
To finalise this post, this doesnt mean I agree with the report.
This government doesnt even recognise poverty exists in the UK, which says a lot.
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Yep:
White people don't want to take the vaccine because white people are racist. Black people don't want to take the vaccine because white people are racist.
These is the lengths the race grifters have to go to get a racism fix.
Heads I win, tails you lose.
An argument I've heard put forward a few times is that the BAME community are less likely to trust the government because of systemic racism. So they don't trust the vaccine as much as non-BAME people. Therefore, the argument goes, the lower uptake in BAME communities is actually because of racism.
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on what was said on the radio a few times
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There was a very good interview on the subject on Radio 4 this morning the issue is trust in government institutions after repeated negative experiences combined with generally poorer standards of education etc. Once again education was highlighted as the fix.An argument I've heard put forward a few times is that the BAME community are less likely to trust the government because of systemic racism. So they don't trust the vaccine as much as non-BAME people. Therefore, the argument goes, the lower uptake in BAME communities is actually because of racism.
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on what was said on the radio a few times
The answer is quite simple, they cannot admit the report is credible or agree with any of it. Because a lot of big names spitting their dummy out have made entire careers out of race-baiting and perpetuating the illusion racism is worse now than it has ever been. They have made money out of division which is a bit disgusting IMO
And a lot of people who are just your typical SJW white saviours on Twitter can only provide anecdotal evidence which is what the report is not even remotely about at all
That makes no sense they won't take the vaccine because of racism and when they die of Covid some in the BAME community will say its because of racism well take the vaccine then can't you see how crazy it sounds.An argument I've heard put forward a few times is that the BAME community are less likely to trust the government because of systemic racism. So they don't trust the vaccine as much as non-BAME people. Therefore, the argument goes, the lower uptake in BAME communities is actually because of racism.
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just passing on what was said on the radio a few times
I think a lot of White people in the media think they have to go along with the Britain is racist narrative so as not to slip up and get cancelled they are weak and its shameful pandering.
What repeated negative experiences do black people have with government institutions, that white people do not?
And is there a chance that white people are having the same/similar negative experiences anyhow? But perhaps a white person shrugs his shoulders and says, "government is useless as always," whereas a black person might think, "the government hates black people."
It would be very, very easy for two people to perceive the same event in different ways. Heck, our media positively encourages black people to see "micro aggressions" in every single encounter they have with white people. Say you get a speeding ticket. Maybe some black people would see that as a microaggression from a racist state? "They're singling me out for a fine because I'm black."
And yet the white chap also gets the same speeding ticket and has a completely different reaction/understanding of what it means.
That's the problem with all of this. So much hinges on perception. So much hinges on what the media are training people to believe.
I agree with you.
Its like Femi the other day banging on about applying for jobs with an African sounding name and getting rejected maybe their was somebody more suitable for the role you can't just say its because of Racism unless you see everybody's CV that have applied for the job.
Uh no.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-46927417
if you actually look into what you are talking about before running your mouth, you’ll find a number of studies have shown that the ethnic origins of your name alone, with identical CV’s, will change how likely you are to get a job.
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someone will be along in a minute to talk about cases where people have sent out identical CV's / resumes with the only difference being some have 'black' names on them.
A lot of these studies have been done in the US and I think they are fundamentally flawed as by picking 'black' names you are also selecting more often for class as well as skin colour. I would like to see one of these studies done in the US that used names associated with lower class whites for comparison.
Economists Roland Fryer and Steven D. Levitt found "little evidence" that names alone can have a direct effect on one’s economic livelihood, concluding that having a black name is "primarily a consequence rather than a cause of poverty and segregation."
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.194.7799&rep=rep1&type=pdf
You need to look a bit deeper to see what's going on sometimes.
I for example would like to see a re run of these blind 'identical' CV tests
lets say on one side we can have a list of the following sort of names
Cletus
Bubba
Boe
Clayton
Darrell
Marty
Jim Bob
Montana
Cody
Austin
Crystal
Brianna
Mindy
Tammy
Sierra
Trinity
Hank
Jamie-Lynn
Travis
Dale
Thelma
Luanne
Charlene
Marlene
Ginny
Sue Anne
Bobbie
Lorena
Mary Lou
And on the other names not so associated with poor white America...
The problem is that some of these studies choose 'black' names that correlate strongly with poor black people vs more affluent 'white' names...
for example one report was titled 'Emily and Greg's vs Lakisha and Jamal'
I think the average Grey and Emily would sit in the upper 50% of the socio economic range for whites in the US with the reverse being true for Lakisha's and Jamal's amongst their black peers.