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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

holy **** the last 4 sites of this thread were so aids it gave me cancer the nvidia hate gays arrived and bashed everything again

it was so nice to read before but thats just too much ********...

also very nice how it was like 1 year ago when the 970 came out wow soooo power efficient i like that hype hype but if amd does it

no one cares and its **** x)

double standards i guess
 
TheMorningStar said:
Some other points for consideration.

7870 Launch Price $349
280x Launch price $299
285 Launch price $299
380x Launch price $229
480 Launch price $199

I see a pattern of significant cost reduction and massive performance gains when the process technology of the time allowed it.


All cards listed will be worth upgrading from, which is a significant share of the market and PCs are being built every day.

Seriously Humbug, you may not like this card but it is going to be an insane hit with the consumer. I think you need to step back and distinguish your desires from the desires of the market.

If stock performance comes in where we expect it to, it is a massive win for AMD. They did everything right on this MID RANGE CARD. A basic analysis of previous gen cost and performance backs this up. The material is there for you to look over.

If it overclocks well, that's another layer of win.
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Very good post.

When comparing that particular market segment, in isolation, things are looking good for the consumer.

Enthusiasts always want more. But this isn't the card for enthusiasts. AMD said many times they were going for volume first, so to get a 7870 type card is really a bit of a bonus, I thought they'd be going lower to be honest, but anyway, 7870 is where I am currently, and this is the 'new 7870' and, price gouging aside, looks like a great deal for me.
 
Scramz said:
Genuine question here, what did you guys realistically expect from a $199.99 graphics card?
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Personally I think the RX 480 is a great card for the money and one of the best AMD have produced in ages.

The funny part about prices is people always want more for less. Even if you could buy a Pascal Titan for £2 there would be people demanding that it should be £1.
 
Scramz said:
Genuine question here, what did you guys realistically expect from a $199.99 graphics card?
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Midrange card, latest gen, smaller die so basically what we used to get.

Similar performance to the previous gens top of the range cards.

Then when the new top of the range one comes out at $400 that will beat the old top of the range by 20-30%

Thats how it always worked. Well, did till Nvidia moved the goalposts. :p
 
I find it hard to believe that moving to 16nm (R&D Costs) would improve price and performance that much off the bat. $199 is sub £200, for a card performing that high, they would charge more.
 
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Let's use some common sense for a minute, as it looks like some have lost it.

Here is a recently released Duo from AMD

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/sapp...ess-graphics-card-21253-00-40g-gx-378-sp.html

Price is £1.199.99

No Fury X's for sale but there is a Fury and it is £349.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/xfx-...ess-graphics-card-r9-fury-4tf9-gx-234-xf.html

Here is a 390X and it is £259.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/xfx-...ess-graphics-card-r9-390x-8df6-gx-226-xf.html

And finally, here is a 390 and it is £209.99

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/xfx-...ess-graphics-card-r9-390p-8dj6-gx-235-xf.html

So AMD claim the 480 has in excess of 5 TFLOPs of raw computation (5.5 TFLOPs)



And when we look at the 390/X, we see 5.1TFLOPs and 5.9TFLOPs respectively of computational power.



So genuinely anyone with some knowledge of GPUs would have worked out from the price and the performance quoted officially from AMD that this was going to sit between a 390 and a 390X performance wise.

I am genuinely surprised that people let themselves get carried away with the hype, when all the facts they needed were there right in front of them.

Would AMD charge $200 for a card that touches on 980Ti performance or would they charge more? They are not a charity and it really does make my head drop when people claim "AMD are for the gamers" etc and they are a business who needs to make money like any other business. I still see people clinging onto this and that with the RX 480 but be realistic guys, this will be a sweet card and VR capable but it isn't and never will be a 1070/80 contender.
 
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humbug said:
Actually it was my post he had a problem with when he said that.

what I said was "it may overclock to 980TI performance" his response was "no matter what you do to it the 480 will never match the 980TI" or words to that effect.

Now, given my 970 overclocked is not a million miles off a 980TI it says a lot about the 480, more than he realised at the time he wrote that.

The RX 480 is no faster than the 390 and at £250 or more for fancy ones; expensive.

This is AMD's second 290 level card re launch in 3 years and for the same money, again.
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A 970 overclocked is nowhere near a 980Ti buddy, I have no idea what your smoking but a 970 overclocked gets nowhere near a stock 980Ti, for gameplay and fluidity. A single 980Ti beats 970 SLI, particular when overclocked.

Seriously your either think 980Ti is slower than it is or your trying to create false hype, which is it?

Also lets remember there is no single stock clock 980Ti on the market, the reference cards had a boost clock by NVIDIA of 1075MHz, but even those boosted to around 1200MHz out the box with no OC. They absolutely slaughter a 970. The only time a 980 OC beat a stock 980Ti was when stock 980Ti had its boost clock reduced to 1000MHz for testing purposes. All 980Ti hit 1450-1550MHz with reasonable comfort.

I've said it before and will say it again, 980Ti can beat 970 SLI, it slaughters a 980 and even rivals the 1070 when overclocked to beyond 1400MHz. Hell even in benchmarks it is still beating the 1080.

The 980Ti is a flagship botty kicking GPU, even the 1080 loses to it in some benchmarks, it is no lightweight, so please stop under-estimating it.
 
Gibbo said:
A 970 overclocked is nowhere near a 980Ti buddy, I have no idea what your smoking but a 970 overclocked gets nowhere near a stock 980Ti, for gameplay and fluidity. A single 980Ti beats 970 SLI, particular when overclocked.

Seriously your either think 980Ti is slower than it is or your trying to create false hype, which is it?

Also lets remember there is no single stock clock 980Ti on the market, the reference cards had a boost clock by NVIDIA of 1075MHz, but even those boosted to around 1200MHz out the box with no OC. They absolutely slaughter a 970. The only time a 980 OC beat a stock 980Ti was when stock 980Ti had its boost clock reduced to 1000MHz for testing purposes. All 980Ti hit 1450-1550MHz with reasonable comfort.

I've said it before and will say it again, 980Ti can beat 970 SLI, it slaughters a 980 and even rivals the 1070 when overclocked to beyond 1400MHz. Hell even in benchmarks it is still beating the 1080.

The 980Ti is a flagship botty kicking GPU, even the 1080 loses to it in some benchmarks, it is no lightweight, so please stop under-estimating it.
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d_brennen said:
It's nearly £400 for the floor model 1070... The 470 launched at £300-350, the 570 was less, £280-330 and similarly the 670. What's happened is that the tiers have gone up in price bracket and no one seems all that bothered.

An AMD clean sweep at the £200-300 mark is great for everyone, except those who drop £400+++ on a mid range part lol

We've also got Vega to come
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Doesn't change the fact that the 1070 is a mid range part. The only reason is priced as high, is due to AMD incompetence with providing no competition. small vega is already pretty much a failure, it will at best match 1070/1080 for similar price but it will be a good 4-5 months late to the market. E.i Fury V2. Nobody is going to buy it, because all the enthusiast in the 4-5 month period will already upgrade to the new Nvidia offerings. Not to mention how AMD just gave up on the enthusiast market, shows you they themselves know that Vega is nothing special and will not be able to compete with Nvidia offering.

Polaris is also set on being nothing special and pretty much confirms same fate for small vega. For a new node process, it should be beating 390x by at least 15 to 25% if not more.

Really if you are stuck on a 290 or higher, the only upgrade path is Nvidia and it will be the case until at least November if not longer.
 
Gregster said:
Let's use some common sense for a minute, as it looks like some have lost it.

Here is a recently released Duo from AMD


Price is £1.199.99

No Fury X's for sale but there is a Fury and it is £349.99


Here is a 390X and it is £259.99


And finally, here is a 390 and it is £209.99


So AMD claim the 480 has in excess of 5 TFLOPs of raw computation (5.5 TFLOPs)


And when we look at the 390/X, we see 5.1TFLOPs and 5.9TFLOPs respectively of computational power.


So genuinely anyone with some knowledge of GPUs would have worked out from the price and the performance quoted officially from AMD that this was going to sit between a 390 and a 390X performance wise.

I am genuinely surprised that people let themselves get carried away with the hype, when all the facts they needed were there right in front of them.

Would AMD charge $200 for a card that touches on 980Ti performance or would they charge more? They are not a charity and it really does make my head drop when people claim "AMD are for the gamers" etc and they are a business who needs to make money like any other business. I still see people clinging onto this and that with the RX 480 but be realistic guys, this will be a sweet card and VR capable but it isn't and never will be a 1070/80 contender.
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No thats exactly where we thought the 480 would be. The hype comes from leaks showing the 480 AIB cards overclock to 1.5Ghz (20%) and "might" even overclock to 1.8Ghz (40%) just like the 980ti does.

The 390x overclocks mildly - 10% from memory.

So if the 480 matches or slightly beats a 390x at stock, overclocked it could be up to 30% faster. Now that would be an amazing card for the money.
 
tavtavtav said:
Tbf the people who are claiming a 980ti is only 20% faster than a 390x (rightly or wrongly) aren't helping Gibbo here.
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It is the biggest load of BS I have read in a long time. 390X is a true 980 competitor, but overclock a 980 and it marginally pulls ahead because 390X overclocks well but that is it, whereas 980 is a great clocker.

But this is 980, an overclocked 980Ti is in a different league completely and the absolute minimum performance increase over a 390X for a 980Ti is 20%, MINIMUM, MINIMUM!!! In some games its as much as 60% faster, the 980Ti is vastly ahead.

Seriously stop under-estimating the 980Ti or creating false rumours. We sell 390X, its a good card and now its around £270 not bad value and cheaper than a 980 which it rivals. :)
 
Gregster said:
So AMD claim the 480 has in excess of 5 TFLOPs of raw computation (5.5 TFLOPs)



And when we look at the 390/X, we see 5.1TFLOPs and 5.9TFLOPs respectively of computational power.



So genuinely anyone with some knowledge of GPUs would have worked out from the price and the performance quoted officially from AMD that this was going to sit between a 390 and a 390X performance wise.

I am genuinely surprised that people let themselves get carried away with the hype, when all the facts they needed were there right in front of them.

Would AMD charge $200 for a card that touches on 980Ti performance or would they charge more? They are not a charity and it really does make my head drop when people claim "AMD are for the gamers" etc and they are a business who needs to make money like any other business. I still see people clinging onto this and that with the RX 480 but be realistic guys, this will be a sweet card and VR capable but it isn't and never will be a 1070/80 contender.
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^^^ THIS.

It actually looks like 390X performance is the most likely scenario for the 480. Going by the 1266MHz clock speed, the 480 comes in at 5.8TFLOPs of raw processing power, which is a negligible difference to the 390X. The only thing the 390X has over the 480 is raw memory bandwidth, but even there it is likely we'll see the 480 match (pull ahead?) of the 390X in overall memory subsystem efficiency. This will be mainly thanks to memory compression (which the 390X does not have). Other factors like a bigger cache, or the primitive discard accelerator (which seems to stop the card from rendering invisible stuff, indirectly causing a decrease in memory I/O) will help the 480 there as well.

So I wouldn't be at all surprised if the stock 480 will basically match and/or beat the 390X in actual games, in fact I expect it to. How much it pulls ahead will come down to how much of an improvement GCN 4 is.

In any case, at this price/performance the stock 480 is a very good card. 390X users won't have much reason to upgrade, but everyone below that point will get a sweet deal. Even 970 users worried about future-proofing (RAM, DX12)...

That's the reference 480 in a nutshell.
 
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