Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

Gregster · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:27

andybird123 said:
No, 1080p

the 1440p run was 51fps which would equate to 33fps on a single card using the scaling figure Robert posted

Ahhh ok, so many differing links and info, I am easily confused

triss · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:28

AMDMatt said:
It seems that was one of the earlier runs from the day before, the date of the 1080 run that i linked was from a day earlier.

EDIT

Trying to locate the actual links used on the day.

Thanks Matt

Seem to be cracking little cards

old gamer · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:29

Jimdriver2 said:
As someone who's been running Crossfired 280X's for a couple of years there's no way in hell I'd ever consider going for RX480 in crossfire, no matter the price.

The driver support for Crossfire is terrible. At best you get support a month or 2 after release of new titles and then it's shoddy like The Division's is. The Witcher 3 still has some issues, mainly because they give up on crossfire after the first attempt.

I decided to go all in with Nvidia and get a 1080, this announcement actually makes me feel happier with that decision.

i always find it odd so many multi gpu users have a different experience, ive ran a lot of xfire and sli setups and on the whole it worked out pretty good for me infact my 7970 crossfire which is the same as 280 crossfire was probably my favorite of the lot, but i can understand some have issues and can be a right pain

Phixsator · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:36

old gamer said:
i always find it odd so many multi gpu users have a different experience, ive ran a lot of xfire and sli setups and on the whole it worked out pretty good for me infact my 7970 crossfire which is the same as 280 crossfire was probably my favorite of the lot, but i can understand some have issues and can be a right pain

i feel the same way, the few times i have had multi gpu setups, 560ti's, 7950s, it has worked just fine most of the time. Granted this is some time ago but there are so many things you can do to remedy a poor situation with mGPUs, even more so on nvidias side thanks to nvidia inspector. Im actually looking forward to multi gpu something like the RX480, but of course like any sane person ill wait with my purchase until the reviews are out.

AlamoX · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:37

old gamer said:
i always find it odd so many multi gpu users have a different experience, ive ran a lot of xfire and sli setups and on the whole it worked out pretty good for me infact my 7970 crossfire which is the same as 280 crossfire was probably my favorite of the lot, but i can understand some have issues and can be a right pain

multi-gpu is affected by cpu and system memory, which isnt the same for everyone, thats why it's varies so much.

Jimdriver2 · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:39

old gamer said:
i always find it odd so many multi gpu users have a different experience, ive ran a lot of xfire and sli setups and on the whole it worked out pretty good for me infact my 7970 crossfire which is the same as 280 crossfire was probably my favorite of the lot, but i can understand some have issues and can be a right pain

Some games it's good with, it flew with BF4.

But over the last few years it's just not been any good.

IRC: MGSV runs well with it. The Witcher 3 just about supports it, scaling isn't great though IMO. GTAV launched with it but has issues if you turn some affects on.

Fallout 4 doesn't work. Doom doesn't work. The Division barely works. Far Cry 4 never worked.

Even when it does work you don't get twice the performance, despite paying twice the price. From past experience I can't see any way at all that crossfired RX480's match a 1080 in actual games.

old gamer · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:45

Jimdriver2 said:
Some games it's good with, it flew with BF4.

But over the last few years it's just not been any good.

IRC: MGSV runs well with it. The Witcher 3 just about supports it, scaling isn't great though IMO. GTAV launched with it but has issues if you turn some affects on.

Fallout 4 doesn't work. Doom doesn't work. The Division barely works. Far Cry 4 never worked.

Even when it does work you don't get twice the performance, despite paying twice the price. From past experience I can't see any way at all that crossfired RX480's match a 1080 in actual games.

yeh i think if i did not have a freesync monitor i would probably feel the same, but i do quite fancy getting a pair of 480's to dabble with, if it all goes **** up i cant see selling them on a problem and not losing to much money

SiDeards73 · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:45

Reading a kinda AMA with Rob Hallock, some interesting tidbits

[–]AMD_RobertTechnical Marketing 4 points 34 minutes ago
I can't really answer your question, but I can give you some food for thought that might be enlightening: the Radeon R7 360 is faster than the 5870.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:45

Jimdriver2 said:
Some games it's good with, it flew with BF4.

But over the last few years it's just not been any good.

IRC: MGSV runs well with it. The Witcher 3 just about supports it, scaling isn't great though IMO. GTAV launched with it but has issues if you turn some affects on.

Fallout 4 doesn't work. Doom doesn't work. The Division barely works. Far Cry 4 never worked.

Even when it does work you don't get twice the performance, despite paying twice the price. From past experience I can't see any way at all that crossfired RX480's match a 1080 in actual games.

Fallout 4 took months for SLI support to arrive and last time I checked if you get over 60FPS the physics goes all wonky in the game.

Edit!!

This article is also worth reading:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9874/amd-dual-fiji-gemini-video-card-delayed-to-2016

More game engines are not supporting mGPU.

DX12 might help in this regard but it needs more work on the dev side.

Ferrari100 · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:47

So we are all talking about mGPU and benchMarks and comparisons to bigger GPU's when ultimately one thing holds true whatever benefits mGPU may bring,
- This card has, according to what we know so far, the performance of an Nvidia GTX980 at $200.
If nothing else these GPU's will sell by the boatload for that reason alone.

AMD engineers have managed to do something great for the PC gaming community no matter what team you belong to, if you do.

Well done AMD.

Nate75 · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:49

Ferrari100 said:
AMD engineers have managed to do something great for the PC gaming community no matter what team you belong to, if you do.

I agree (and am an Nvidia user).

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:51

I agree too,as if AMD does deliver on R9 390X performance at £165 to £200,it should mean that Vega and the next set of Nvidia cards launched will need to be also relatively reasonably priced too.

AllBodies · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:51

Gregster said:
Ahhh ok, so many differing links and info, I am easily confused

Are there 1080p benches where you got that data too?

Would it then suggest a couple of % points above a 390X?

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I agree too,as if AMD does deliver on R9 390X performance at £165 to £200,it should mean that Vega and the next set of Nvidia cards launched will need to be also relatively reasonably priced too.

Yeah hopefully that suggests the prospect of double-Fury(pro) performance for £500 is realistic.

SiDeards73 · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:54

another interesting comment

[–]solarvoltaic 1 point 39 minutes ago
So, as someone with no dual GPU experience, I have to ask a seemingly stupid question, what was holding the dual 480s back?

[–]AMD_RobertTechnical Marketing 2 points 22 minutes ago
Tuning in the game. The developer fully controls how and how well multi-GPU functions in DX12 and Vulkan.

Gregster · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:54

Ferrari100 said:
So we are all talking about mGPU and benchMarks and comparisons to bigger GPU's when ultimately one thing holds true whatever benefits mGPU may bring,
- This card has, according to what we know so far, the performance of an Nvidia GTX980 at $200.
If nothing else these GPU's will sell by the boatload for that reason alone.

AMD engineers have managed to do something great for the PC gaming community no matter what team you belong to, if you do.

Well done AMD.

It just comes across as all smoke and mirrors. I just wish they had shown a single card in that game (Yes, even that game) and that would have been a teaser enough. What they have done is left people scratching their heads over this. Why was only 50% GPU utilization being seen? Is CF scaling bad? etc.

I like simple things and they should have just shown a single card run. That would have sufficed for now and BS to upsetting the reviewers.

triss · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:55

Ferrari100 said:
So we are all talking about mGPU and benchMarks and comparisons to bigger GPU's when ultimately one thing holds true whatever benefits mGPU may bring,
- This card has, according to what we know so far, the performance of an Nvidia GTX980 at $200.
If nothing else these GPU's will sell by the boatload for that reason alone.

AMD engineers have managed to do something great for the PC gaming community no matter what team you belong to, if you do.

Well done AMD.

Have to agree with this, if its around that level of performance then many more gamers will be able to enjoy a better gaming experice

SiDeards73 · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:56

Gregster said:
It just comes across as all smoke and mirrors. I just wish they had shown a single card in that game (Yes, even that game) and that would have been a teaser enough. What they have done is left people scratching their heads over this. Why was only 50% GPU utilization being seen? Is CF scaling bad? etc.

I like simple things and they should have just shown a single card run. That would have sufficed for now and BS to upsetting the reviewers.

Greg, they have said why they did not show Single GPU figures, because they are leaving that up to the reviewers to do, so as to not steal their revenue income from site traffic i would imagine.

That is why they showed mGpu off instead, so they could atleast show something without hitting the reviewers in the pockets.

Gregster · 2 Jun 2016 at 11:57

AllBodies said:
Are there 1080p benches where you got that data too?

Would it then suggest a couple of % points above a 390X?

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18720374

Here

SiDeards73 said:
Greg, they have said why they did not show Single GPU figures, because they are leaving that up to the reviewers to do, so as to not steal their revenue income from site traffic i would imagine.

That is why they showed mGpu off instead, so they could atleast show something without hitting the reviewers in the pockets.

I am a dirty old Docker and forgive my ignorance but showing a test where your GPUs can only hit 50% utilization doesn't really do them any favours. They are all clued up with Oxide as well but like I said, smoke and mirrors.

Ferrari100 · 2 Jun 2016 at 12:03

Gregster said:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18720374

Here

I am a dirty old Docker and forgive my ignorance but showing a test where your GPUs can only hit 50% utilization doesn't really do them any favours. They are all clued up with Oxide as well but like I said, smoke and mirrors.

Well, if that is the case, Nvidia are just as bad, if not worse.

The fact is Robert was asked a question and he responded, right or wrong.

I have seen times when certain businesses use smoke and mirrors without even being asked a question.

Meh

Gregster · 2 Jun 2016 at 12:09

Ferrari100 said:
Well, if that is the case, Nvidia are just as bad, if not worse.

The fact is Robert was asked a question and he responded, right or wrong.

I have seen times when certain businesses use smoke and mirrors without even being asked a question.

Meh

We will just have to wait for reviews I guess. And yer, NVidia are just as bad with these things, so it shouldn't be a surprise.