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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

Why not all just wait & see?

Honestly the amount of uninformed guessing and inability to let go of something is silly

It will be what it will be


There is no personal triumph for anyone Apart from workers, sellers & Shareholders in Nvidia or AMD

No one else matters to them.
 
Granted i'm new to watching GPU releases but it seems daft that no confirmed performance stats are available for the RX480 so people like me can make an informed decision before the 29th.

They want people to panic on release day and rush to buy for fear of losing out. A certain percentage of people will not cancel their pre-order no matter how disappointed they may be, a lot more will let it ride so long as it's vaguely in the ballpark of what they expected. That's the way it's done these days sadly.
 
They want people to panic on release day and rush to buy for fear of losing out. A certain percentage of people will not cancel their pre-order no matter how disappointed they may be, a lot more will let it ride so long as it's vaguely in the ballpark of what they expected.
Yes probably some of this, it's a legit tactic.
 
I do wish more news on the AIB options under $300 would surface before the 29th. Find that more frustrating than waiting for the actual reviews.
No doubt others are wanting the best performing card within the sub £300 price point but as yet we have seen very little.
 
I do wish more news on the AIB options under $/£300 would surface before the 29th. Find that more frustrating than waiting for the actual reviews.

No doubt others are want the best performing card within the sub £300 price point but as yet we have seen very little.

I think a lot of us are waiting on initial release to see how capable the cards are, both stock and how they OC, this should give an indication of AIB aftermarket performances in a small way, but yeah im waiting also to see what the AIB cards are like with better coolers and potentially better power delivery etc.

Really interested to see DX11 Performance in current and older titles, would also like to see how they fare in heavy tessellated Gameworks games, to see if AMD are still handicapped.
 
I think a lot of us are waiting on initial release to see how capable the cards are, both stock and how they OC, this should give an indication of AIB aftermarket performances in a small way, but yeah im waiting also to see what the AIB cards are like with better coolers and potentially better power delivery etc.

Really interested to see DX11 Performance in current and older titles, would also like to see how they fare in heavy tessellated Gameworks games, to see if AMD are still handicapped.

AMD cards really haven't been handicapped in super tessellated games since the driver change allowing you to set tess levels - NVidia on the other hand ;) I think we might get a few more tidbits tomorrow if rumors are true
 
To those confused by the 'borked' pre-release driver (odd way to phrase it) or 'lowballing' argument.

The theory is really about control of information and managing market expectations, consumers and perhaps tangentially shareprice - some influenced by reception. There would be more benefit in slightly 'lowballing' (say through not widely providing most recent drivers -that are capable of extracting additional polaris performance- that could get into the wild, or conservative benchmark numbers that do not give the game away - potentially the VR numbers). Come launch and the actual (perhaps only marginally higher) performance stats are released to the market, you generate a chain of incremental positive news and undermine any pre-release discourse that as we have seen can be spinned +/-.

Imagine NV released official and (importantly) representative 1080 performance indicators (ie equivalent to reviewer level) pre-release that let the market know exactly how the card would perform. On release day the market response is "well it is as expected" and everyone is soley focused on the price. Discussion pre-launch and post NV stats would have been orientated around price and peoples expectations set.

I am sure we all remember the Fiji performance numbers in AMD's marketing slides using tweaked game settings to play to Fiji's shader strengths. It really did not do AMD any favours once reviewers game benchmarks, using real world settings, came out.

Whether this 'lowballing' is the case remains to be seen of course. It is by no means dismissible as superficial. However, that it is to confuse Nvidia is more than likely nonsense, I am sure they have a reasonably close idea (but not exact) of its performance and capabilities (people talk and say things when they shouldn't).
 
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A gif of the hype train derailing, oh wait that's been done, now who was it that posted that:D

That Gif made me proper chuckle. Gibbo in one post severed this thread (and it was needed in truth). The 480 has its own market for now and that is what it will be good for. Hopefully it has a good run without competition, as I have a proper soft spot for AMD and would love to see them fighting NVidia via GPU wars (not the stupid forums and articles).

I am proper excited and for the first time, not really sure what to expect. I normally have a good idea of performance but so many contradicting leaks and some look about right and some look slow and some look fast but I have set my stall for 390X performance and will use that as the basis of performance without knowing what is what. Slower and disappointing really but faster and a real winner and at $200, a real winner for AMD's purse as well as the customers.
 
To those confused by the 'borked' pre-release driver (odd way to phrase it) or 'lowballing' argument.

The theory is really about control of information and managing market expectations, consumers and perhaps tangentially shareprice. There would be more benefit in slightly 'lowballing' (say through not widely providing most recent drivers -that are capable of extracting additional polaris performance- that could get into the wild, or conservative benchmark numbers that do not give the game away - potentially the VR numbers). Come launch and the actual higher (perhaps only marginally) performance stats are released to the market, you generate a chain of incremental positive news and undermine any pre-release discourse that as we have seen can be spinned +/-.

Imagine NV released official and (importantly) representative 1080 performance indicators (ie equivalent to reviewer level) pre-release that let the market know exactly how the card would perform. On release day the market response is "well it is as expected" and everyone is soley focused on the price. Discussion pre-launch and post NV stats would have been orientated around price and peoples expectations set.

I am sure we all remember the Fiji performance numbers in AMD's marketing slides using tweaked game settings to play to Fiji's shader strengths. It really did not do AMD any favours once reviewers game benchmarks, using real world settings, came out.

Whether this 'lowballing' is the case remains to be seen of course. It is by no means dismissible as superficial. However, that it is to confuse Nvidia is more than likely nonsense, I am sure they have a reasonably close idea (but not exact) of its performance and capabilities (people talk and say things when they shouldn't).

Its a good point - but we've seen Nvidia get caught a few times off guard when AMD's put out this misinformation - 4870/4850 launch - very much caught Nvidia off guard.......along with launch 5000 series with eyefinity -

with other launches AMD got away from from and we've seen how their launches have gone - only partly surprise was the launch of 7970 ghz version....but that was more of a counter.

only way to really keep Nvidia on their toes is to go back to cat and mouse games; misinformation etc.......I think this is exactly what AMD is doing......
 
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