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Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

mattyc123 said:
It seems a little strange to me to launch a mid range before your high end product. I really hope that AMD can compete so it drives the price of the high end cards down, nvidia seem to be stifling the market with poor supply so they can hold the prices up.
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The high end doesn't care about prices and nvidia already released high end.
It's possible that the 490 isn't complete yet but they could release low/mid end card which right now has no competition on the market (rather than stuff than 2-3year old cards which are about to be completely sold out).
 
GFX-Kid said:
Very true. Not many people see this.
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It's really not true.

Well, Ultra/Max settings often not providing a big visual jump is true, but it's not true that it'll usually run twice as good by turning them down one notch. And there are enough cases where they do provide a good visual boost.

Either way, it is nice to have options. And it is certainly not there just to sell video cards as the developers aren't selling anything but their game. For people with the power to spare, it's good to be able to throw on the little extra details, nothing wrong with that.

The problem comes from people obsessing over 'maxing' something out.

humbug said:
I'm 100% with this guy.
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I think at this point, our main hope is for magic drivers.

Which is not comforting....
 
Seanspeed said:
Depends on what you mean by 'near'.

I was really hoping for *better* than 390X/980 performance stock, personally. If there's no magic drivers or anything and these performance leaks are accurate, it'll be fairly disappointing for me. Still a decent enough card, so will sell, but nothing to go bragging about as it'll basically be the bare minimum of what you'd expect from a node jump. It would also indicate the new architecture changes were built more for TDP efficiency rather than outright gaming performance - a sign that maybe AMD really didn't like the reputation they were getting for good, but inefficient GPU's.
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Were you really expecting that performance jump? This is a 380x replacement, and it's coming in at the same price as the 380x was launched at. ~$232. And you were expecting it to be faster than a 390x/980? That's more than a two tier jump in performance.

That is very unlikely to happen. This is the mainstream market. This is the market below the 970. If it's between 390 and 390x in performance that will be a huge leap for this market segment.

And are you surprised that it concentrates more on power efficiency? AMD has stressed this all along, the performance per watt was critical for them. VR performance, power consumption and that they were aiming at the mainstream market first, those were the things that they emphasised in their conference.

I think the problem is that when rumours of Polaris first came out, people assumed the Polaris 10 card would be mid range and were expecting it to be a 970/390 killer. Those expectations haven't died even after AMD saying polaris were mainstream and entry level cards. I mean if AMD had released the 390 and 390x replacements first, most people on this forum wouldn't have given a damn about the performance or price of the 380x replacement.
 
Gibbo said:
390's are EOL and have fallen a lot in price in past weeks, were just clearing them out. Same for 390X!
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He even admitted it... Quick! Grab your 390/390X before there are one left and the only option remaining will be an overpriced RX 480!

But you know what's funny... the 960/380 cards have barely had any price drops at all. Clear indication that the RX 480 launch won't even go to those price points :c
 
Seanspeed said:
I think at this point, our main hope is for magic drivers.
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I always thought the point of waiting for RX480 benchmarks was that it's somewhere around 970 - 980 performance with old drivers, and that the reviewers had a new set which would push performance higher.

I still stand by my comments that it'll be around Nano performance, unless AMD have pushed the 390X EOL without me noticing. It's just going to ruin 390/390X sales otherwise, all that stock will sit around twiddling it's thumbs and I can't see AMD wanting that.

Plus the Fury and Nano have gone EOL, so there's a huge gap in the market for a card that performs at either point.

If i'm wrong, so be it. You're welcome to come back and mock me tomorrow.
 
mahius said:
He even admitted it... Quick! Grab your 390/390X before there are one left and the only option remaining will be an overpriced RX 480!

But you know what's funny... the 960/380 cards have barely had any price drops at all. Clear indication that the RX 480 launch won't even go to those price points :c
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it wouldn't really make sense at this point to buy a 390/X/970/980, with the 480 out, even if similar price, let alone if its a bit cheaper, if not for efficiency and features for AMD counterpart, or memory and DX12 for nvidia counterpart, you do it for the sake of the finfet process and support life span...
i could see ppl reluctant to sidegrade if they have them, but an upgrade from lower, the 480 would still be a no brainer.
 
melmac said:
Were you really expecting that performance jump? This is a 380x replacement, and it's coming in at the same price as the 380x was launched at. ~$232. And you were expecting it to be faster than a 390x/980? That's more than a two tier jump in performance.

That is very unlikely to happen. This is the mainstream market. This is the market below the 970. If it's between 390 and 390x in performance that will be a huge leap for this market segment.

And are you surprised that it concentrates more on power efficiency? AMD has stressed this all along, the performance per watt was critical for them. VR performance, power consumption and that they were aiming at the mainstream market first, those were the things that they emphasised in their conference.

I think the problem is that when rumours of Polaris first came out, people assumed the Polaris 10 card would be mid range and were expecting it to be a 970/390 killer. Those expectations haven't died even after AMD saying polaris were mainstream and entry level cards. I mean if AMD had released the 390 and 390x replacements first, most people on this forum wouldn't have given a damn about the performance or price of the 380x replacement.
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At no point did they ever say the 480 is 'entry level'. It clearly isn't, as the 460 and 470 exist. 'Mainstream' just means 'not expensive'. So in the $100-300 range.

And yes, I thought it was reasonable that better-than-390X performance was possible with not only the node jump, but also new architecture on a 232mm^ die.

It's been so long, I feel like people forget what node jumps can bring. A GTX660(221mm^) matched the GTX580(520mm^), ya know?
 
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