Radeon RX 480 "Polaris" Launched at $199

humbug · 11 Jul 2016 at 14:36

Erik13 said:
Wth every person on internet tries to compare superclocked gtx 970 to rx 480 lol ? at that clockspeed it is basically gtx 980 so why not compare gtx 980 directly ? i guess it doesn't serve the purpose to downplay this card

@ 1491Mhz its quicker than a stock 980.

DragonQ · 11 Jul 2016 at 14:42

Wrinkly said:
You will have a better experience with AMD using Freesync at no extra cost.

True, I would much prefer to use FreeSync than be tied to an expensive GSync monitor.

Erik13 said:
if 6 gb 1060 ends up beeing on the same level as 8 gb rx480 custom sapphire i would personally still pick custom 8 gb sapphire. More ram, superior dx12 plus great cooler

What if the GTX 1060 ends up being 15% faster rather than "on the same level" as the RX 480, as rumours speculate?

humbug · 11 Jul 2016 at 14:45

DragonQ said:
True, I would much prefer to use FreeSync than be tied to an expensive GSync monitor.

What if the GTX 1060 ends up being 15% faster rather than "on the same level" as the RX 480, as rumours speculate?

I think if your planing on playing games released in the near future you would do well with the 480, AMD's DX12 support is better and performance is higher, the chances are the 480 will jump up and down on a 1060 in coming DX12 titles.

Feoilban · 11 Jul 2016 at 14:52

humbug said:
I think if your planing on playing games released in the near future you would do well with the 480, AMD's DX12 support is better and performance is higher, the chances are the 480 will jump up and down on a 1060 in coming DX12 titles.

Having said that, who will buy a 1060 ?

Its not really worth it if you already own a 970, 980 390(x)

greatash · 11 Jul 2016 at 14:55

Feoilban said:
Having said that, who will buy a 1060 ?

Its not really worth it if you already own a 970, 980 390(x)

I think its in the same situation as the 960, people will just look at one tier higher and buy that instead since its so much quicker for £100/$100 more.

humbug · 11 Jul 2016 at 14:55

Feoilban said:
Having said that, who will buy a 1060 ?

Its not really worth it if you already own a 970, 980 390(x)

They will sell lots of them, just because they are Nvidia.

kmetek · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:05

RX 470
RX 460

where does they compare too?

d_brennen · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:09

280/380 (x) and 270/370 based on nothing more than my assumptions

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:13

d_brennen said:
280/380 (x) and 270/370 based on nothing more than my assumptions

Well,the RX470 appears to have 2048 shaders,which means the RX480 has 12.5% more shaders. That would place the RX470 at around R9 290 level.

The RX460 is a Polaris 11 part,so it might be more around R7 370 level IMHO.

Feoilban · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:13

humbug said:
They will sell lots of them, just because they are Nvidia.

Yeah I know that

I was trying to approach this rationally

I never had the NVIDIA/AMD bash urge I owned both

Having said that i really like what AMD have done with the 480 in regards to price/perf

980 was $600 on release
1060 249/99 on release

I dont think they would have priced the 1060 at that level if it wasnt for the 480

fastboy · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:14

surely the 1060 will be a flop like the 480 because there are other similar performing cards already out there

Feoilban · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:17

fastboy said:
surely the 1060 will be a flop like the 480 because there are other similar performing cards already out there

All of a sudden the people spouting that nonsense in regards to the 480 are nowhere to be seen when it comes to the 1060

humbug · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:22

Feoilban said:
Yeah I know that

I was trying to approach this rationally

I never had the NVIDIA/AMD bash urge I owned both

Having said that i really like what AMD have done with the 480 in regards to price/perf

980 was $600 on release
1060 249/99 on release

I dont think they would have priced the 1060 at that level if it wasnt for the 480

The 8GB reference 480's are $230/40 and £240/50 in the UK, so if the 1060 is $250 to $300 i can see them being £270 to £320 in the UK.

That is a very high price, about £80 more than the 960 ever was, its GTX 970 money.

fastboy said:
surely the 1060 will be a flop like the 480 because there are other similar performing cards already out there

It may well if the price is that ^^^^^ high, your a 960 owner woukld you spend around £300 on a card like that?

D.P. · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:24

fastboy said:
surely the 1060 will be a flop like the 480 because there are other similar performing cards already out there

What card is there with performance and power consumption of the 1060? AFAik it is unique.

fastboy · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:24

just quoting what was spouted off about the 480 son..a dog cant have 2 tails

d_brennen · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:24

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Well,the RX470 appears to have 2048 shaders,which means the RX480 has 12.5% more shaders. That would place the RX470 at around R9 290 level.

The RX460 is a Polaris 11 part,so it might be more around R7 370 level IMHO.

The 390 isn't much more than a speed bumped 290 and the 480 isn't a huge margin faster than either, unless we cherry pick results. With less shaders and a drop in core clock (it needs it to drop in line with perf/watt expectations), I wouldn't be surprised at 280/380 (x) speed

humbug · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:26

Just like Pascal ^^^

D.P. said:
What card is there with performance and power consumption of the 1060? AFAik it is unique.

RX 470 maybe.

kmetek · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:28

what are price predictions for RX 470? don't want to spend more then 150.

humbug · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:31

kmetek said:
what are price predictions for RX 470? don't want to spend more then 150.

I very much doubt it will be more than £150, 4GB 480's were only about £180

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 11 Jul 2016 at 15:33

d_brennen said:
The 390 isn't much more than a speed bumped 290 and the 480 isn't a huge margin faster than either, unless we cherry pick results. With less shaders and a drop in core clock (it needs it to drop in line with perf/watt expectations), I wouldn't be surprised at 280/380 (x) speed

I am not sure why you are accusing people of cherry picking things:

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

That is over 16 games.

The RX480 has 12.5% more shaders than a RX470 and tends to throttle over time to under 1200MHZ - reviews have shown it settles down to around 1150MHZ to 1170MHZ. If you do some quick sums of 2304 shaders at that speed it equates just above an R9 390,which fits with what TPU sees,ie, 2516 shaders at 1050MHZ vs 2304 shaders at 10% more clockspeed.

So even if it has a lower boost clockspeed,the RX470 will still be closer to an R9 290. I expect the RX470 to be around 1.1GHZ to 1.15GHZ and I suspect for cost reasons AMD will use the same reference PCB and cheapo cooler from the RX480,and I suspect due to the lower boost frequency and cut down GPU it will boost more consistently too. Could be wrong OFC.

The R9 390X has 10% more shaders than a R3 390,yet is not 10% faster according to TPU.

If you looked at the R9 290 series for example,they gained massively in performance/watt closer to 900MHZ,as opposed to around 1GHZ where the cards were essentially overvolted.

Edit!!

Even if you look at the R9 380X and R9 380 they are around 10% different in speed.

The same as the R9 280X vs the R9 280 and the HD7870 and the HD7850.

Even at a 15% difference it would be closer to a reference R9 290.

Second Edit!!

Even at 20% difference that would make the card in-between a GTX780 and a R9 290 overall.