Radeon VII

Gibbo · 22 Feb 2019 at 23:21

pete910 said:
But most like me would rather have £100 or so off the price and not have the games.

The games cost AMD less than $10, so no they can't drop the price £100 because the games cost nowhere near that.

So if they were to drop a $700 card to $690, sales would be no change.
But bundle in a load of games with an RRP of $150 which people may have considered going out to be buy and all of a sudden it has a dramatic effect on their sales.

pete910 · 23 Feb 2019 at 00:24

Gibbo said:
The games cost AMD less than $10

I know that AMD will be paying peanuts for them, I was pointing out to Nasher that some would rather have a reduced price rather than games. I was using his 100 as an example

Scougar · 23 Feb 2019 at 01:01

Bear in mind we canno get the same price as AMD, so don't just assume ten pounds.

bigmike20vt · 23 Feb 2019 at 07:30

Games bundles are a nice sweatener and i definitely see them as a plus point ... But I would disagree with saying they add £130 value onto the game.
Also NV offer 2 games with their high end cards don't they?.
The comments about the shroud blow my mind, honestly with that and the claims that lowering voltage and upping the core speed is apparently an absolute give so much that comparison benchmarks by some comparing to NV is showing the card in such a way.

I have to ask who the hell is designing the final bits of these things and should they be retrained or replaced?.

IF a 3d printer can improve the shroud then the original design is not fit for purpose and should have never made it out.
IF under volting is an absolute given and improves performance as much as some say then the stock bios is not fit for purpose and should never have made it out... Esp as it makes the card look worse than it really is. Double ESP as AMD should have learned from Vega 64.

Or am I missing something ?

That said I am reticent to believe "X over clocking to Y is a given after I bought a gtx 980 which would not OC at all

eeii · 23 Feb 2019 at 18:30

It does beggar belief that AMD would release a product that can be improved by Herbert's like us tweaking away. But I tell you this. I love getting better performance for a few minutes tweakage.

Gerard · 23 Feb 2019 at 18:37

Just about any gpu can be improved by the end user, slapping an aio on cards generally lets it clock higher for example.

hyperseven · 23 Feb 2019 at 21:10

Tom B · 27 Feb 2019 at 12:07

@Gibbo do you know when the Sapphire cards are going to be back in stock? Also, are they OK with cooler removal? If not, which brand would you recommend if I'm planning to get a water block.

Vish Petrol · 27 Feb 2019 at 20:44

Tom B said:
@Gibbo do you know when the Sapphire cards are going to be back in stock? Also, are they OK with cooler removal? If not, which brand would you recommend if I'm planning to get a water block.

I am also interested in whether it would be covered with Sapphire.

Gibbo · 28 Feb 2019 at 11:13

Tom B said:
@Gibbo do you know when the Sapphire cards are going to be back in stock? Also, are they OK with cooler removal? If not, which brand would you recommend if I'm planning to get a water block.

Still waiting in feedback from Sapphire/AMD.

We’re expexting 40 Powercolor cards in 7-10 days.

Vish Petrol · 1 Mar 2019 at 19:34

Gibbo said:
Still waiting in feedback from Sapphire/AMD.

We’re expexting 40 Powercolor cards in 7-10 days.

Thanks

Gibbo · 1 Mar 2019 at 19:50

70 incoming from sapphire, eta end of next week.

Vish Petrol · 1 Mar 2019 at 19:53

Gibbo said:
70 incoming from sapphire, eta end of next week.

Any idea on the cooler removal/waterblock application?

nashathedog · 1 Mar 2019 at 19:53

Gibbo said:
Still waiting in feedback from Sapphire/AMD.
We’re expexting 40 Powercolor cards in 7-10 days.

Gibbo said:
70 incoming from sapphire, eta end of next week.

Great news for everyone waiting, It's a shame you couldn't get the Powercolor chaps to extend the warranty to match everyone else's.

eeii · 3 Mar 2019 at 08:56

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8e5MRFDNOg
Vega 7 under water part 2

Tom B · 3 Mar 2019 at 17:06

Vish Petrol said:
Any idea on the cooler removal/waterblock application?

I'm also interested in this and buying the VII as soon as I can get a block.

skline00 · 4 Mar 2019 at 03:24

Bykski just announced a waterblock for the Radeon VII shipping after 3-25-19.

Vish Petrol · 20 Mar 2019 at 05:11

If I were to purchase a waterblock, would I have to setup a custom loop for it? Is it possible to connect it to an AIO?

Aretak · 20 Mar 2019 at 08:31

Vish Petrol said:
If I were to purchase a waterblock, would I have to setup a custom loop for it? Is it possible to connect it to an AIO?

The vast majority of AIOs don't support any expansion of the loop, but there are a handful that do, such as the Alphacool Eisbaer 360.

LePhuronn · 20 Mar 2019 at 12:16

Vish Petrol said:
If I were to purchase a waterblock, would I have to setup a custom loop for it? Is it possible to connect it to an AIO?

Considering that most AIOs are not expandable, and those few that are probably use Aluminium radiators, I would say there's no point and just get a proper loop. If you're going to have multiple radiators in your case from CPU and GPU AIOs with all the tubing involved, then just do it properly in the first place.